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GC90A0

Traditional CacheDead Tree Overlook

A cache by albuquerquebill (original owner Broken Wing)     Hidden: 9/20/2002

Size: Size: Regular (Regular)     Difficulty: 2 out of 5     Terrain: 4 out of 5 (1 is easiest, 5 is hardest)


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In New Mexico, United States

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The hike to the cache requires a little over 2 mile/2 hour journey (one-way), with an elevation gain of about 1400 feet. You should start your trek to the cache from the north (Del Agua trailhead). If you start from the south, you will find your way blocked by a private in-holding in the national forest. Besides the northerly route is more interesting. In wetter years, you would be almost certain to get your feet wet, and be able to enjoy a small waterfall. Unfortunately this year (2002), the waterfall is dry, and except for a far off gurgle, and some small rivulets near the cache site, the water is gone. There is an intermittent trail that runs from the start and passes within 100 feet of the cache site; however it has a tendency to disappear when you most need it. It took me three trips to this area before I was able to scope out the route the path takes, but then I'm no Daniel Boone.

To get to the Del Agua trailhead, take I-25 Exit 242. Head east toward Placitas on NM 165 for three miles. Just past the three mile marker, turn right on a dirt road. Pay your fee, then continue on, passing the turn for the Piedra Lisa Spring trailhead. 2.2 miles after leaving the hard road, park in a small parking area on your left (13 S 365023, 3904766 [UTM]). There is no sign, but this marks the start of the Del Agua trail, which heads south out of the parking area.

From the parking area, follow the Del Agua trail for about 0.9 miles , until you come to a trail (13 S 365399, 3903789) heading south up a side canyon. Follow this trail as in goes in and out of the stream bed. After about 0.64 miles (13 S 365395, 3902957), the trail will leave the stream bed on the left side. It follows the stream for a little, and then heads roughly 130 deg True up the right side of a small rocky arroyo. Along the way will should see several rock cairns.

Eventually you should came to a rock cairn at 13 S 365463, 3902850. Here, if you look to 155 degrees True, you should see a couple of dumpster size boulders about 20 feet away, with small trees to their left. Over the top of the boulders, about 500 feet away you should see a small hillock, topped by some bare rocks. The trail runs through a clearing to the left of this hillock, but if you head straight for it, you will have some bushwhacking and climbing to do. Instead continue following the trail starting out at 120 degrees true, up the rocks to a point just to the south and slightly downhill side a group of very large rocks -almost a small cliff (13 S 365547, 3902765). Here the trail turns south and heads for the clearing (13 S 365505, 3902687 ) . The clearing is about 0.9 miles from where you left the Del Aqua trail. The clearing is a good place to take a short stop.

Once you are rested, follow a trail that exits the southern corner of the clearing. The trail heads SW and comes to a ridge overlooking the stream. Continue following the trail best you can as runs it up and slightly left of the ridge - but don't drop too far the left. Just after you make a short scramble up an incline, about 0.15 miles from the clearing, you should see the trail heading to the right (SE), down into the canyon. Eventually (about 0.25 miles from the clearing) this trail will come to the stream amidst pines and aspens. Staying to the left of the stream, follow the trail. Shortly you will come to an arroyo (with several large ponderosa pine next to it) that intersects the trail and the joins the stream bed from the left (about 300 feet from the cache site).

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(letter above equals below, and vice versa)

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 October 9, 2009 by Cache U (2727 found)
Found with Mousse on a beautiful fall morning following in Cougarox and ZenGuru's footsteps. I have always wanted to go after this one, but sadly was unable to make the trip with Cougarox and Zenguru when they went for this one about a month ago. I do appreciate the fact that they beat the trail down somewhat. I was also surprised to run into another hiker on this "trail" near the part requiring some scrambling to the left of the boulder wall. He was out with his dog too, and making good time as he passed me easily. He seemed to know the trail pretty well, but don't think he was a cacher. As always, it was much easier to stay on the trail coming back down as opposed to going up. There were a few places where the scrub oak is thick, but overall the bushwacking wasn't too bad and there were only a few short stretches where the grade was steep. Mousse had no trouble, but this is definitely not a cache for kids. All in all a good hike; thanks for the cache and thanks to ABQBill for adopting this one!

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 September 12, 2009 by ZenGuru (996 found)
Caching with CougarOx and Bronco. This hike was definitely a challenge. Calling the trail a "trail" is a bit of a stretch. We really appreciated the intermediate waypoints, as they kept us on the right track. First to find in 2009. Signed log. Thanks for the cache. ZenGuru from NM

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 September 12, 2009 by cougarox (3451 found)
This cache has been on my radar, calling to me, for it seems like forever. Today ZenGuru, Bronco and I made the hike in to find it. I'm not entirely sure that it was a hike per se, though it certainly had the walking in the woods bit. I might rather call it an extended bush-rock-cactus-cliff-whack, with us as the whackees. The overgrown Del Agua trail was like a highway in comparison to the prescribed "path" we took. Bronco the BoulderDog was a great help in many spots, as he has a talent for finding paths and ways through (even if they /are ACD-sized). When we reached the clearing, he wanted to put a cache out, so we helped. That should be showing up soon. Although some of the most difficult terrain was to follow, the end of the hike in, and the GZ area itself, is very pretty indeed. We enjoyed the stream, too. Thought about leaving stuff, but just SL. Thanks for the adventure, Broken wing and Bill! Future searchers may want to discount the cairn way point, as there is no cairn to be found there. The area is nonetheless a way point, on the "path"

[This entry was edited by cougarox on Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 1:52:49 AM.]

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 December 4, 2008 by Never Boring (292 found)
This turned out to be one of the most bone-headed adventures we have had. Not being as bright as littleamerica, we got off to a late start......and kept going! We lost the trail at some critical points and the bushwacking cost us a lot of precious time/daylight. To make matters worse, I was too lazy to input all the waypoints given and she was too stubborn to turn around when things started to look bad. Must have been her turn.

We finally did get to the cache...at sundown. Out came the headlamps as we started to make our way back down. I finally had the great idea to transfer the waypoints from the printout to the GPSr but screwed up on the nearest one, which kept leading us to a major dropoff! Realizing that we were going to get ourselves killed, we retreated to a spot near the cache site that had looked flat and safe enough to spend the night. It was a long, cold night in the Sandias.

After seeing the fresh bear and coyote scat on the way up the trail, we were very much on edge as I tried to remember my survival training from Boy Scouts (20 years ago) and she remembered stuff from TV. The dog was on gaurd all night and would give a good scary growl when the yips would get too close.

By morning, the water in Morgen's pack had frozen but we hadn't! In the light of a new day (and with corrected waypoints) the trail was found and three weary wanderers made it back to the car and then home for a feast of steak and lobster (even the dog got a ribeye).

Not always a good idea, not always a smart idea, but NEVER BORING!!!

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 October 9, 2008 by Team Tuxawuxa (5518 found)
Think I followed MZW's route, though the game trail vanished. Beautiful hike up the Piedra Lisa Trail but not much to redeem the bushwacking location except that one goes where the cache is. Thanks to ABQbill for adopting it.

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Current Time: 2/10/2010 2:04:52 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada) (10:04 AM GMT)
Last Updated: 10/9/2009 2:29:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time (9:29 PM GMT)
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