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Po stopach Huncokarov I - Pansky Dom Traditional Cache

Hidden : 6/9/2011
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Terrain:
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Tato seria vas prevedie castou Malych Karpat, po miestach, kde zanechali svoje stopy "Horski ludia".
This series will follow you through Small Carpathian Mountains. You will see places where "mountain people" left theirs footprint.

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Pansky dom
Keska vas privedie na huncokarsku lucku a k menovkyni slavnejsej horarne, ktora sa nachadza v osade Piesok (vid. waypoint). Preco su mena horarni identicke sa nam zatial zistit nepodarilo (ale patrame dalej :o)).
Pansky dom v osade Piesok stoji na konci "Panskeho chodnika" ktory modransky mestania pouzivali na vylety do Malych Karpat. Velmi rychlo sa stal oblubenym miestom Modranov. V tejto horarni sa 11. 8. 1881 zisla pocetna skupina slovenskych narodovcov a zalozila "Modranske mestianske kasino". Prvym predsedom bol A.Filipek. Cinnost kasina bola zamerana na kulturne a spolocenske podujatia (divadlo, spevokol, kniznica, cítanie knih a casopisov, majalesy), ale aj vychadzky do modranskych hor. V ramci svojej cinnosti spolok vyhladaval aj turisticke chodniky, z nich okolo 50 km bolo v roku 1892 vyznackovanych, vydal mapu Malych Karpat, zacal budovat letovisko Harmonia a dal podnet k zalozeniu "Modranskeho turistickeho spolku".

Zaklad je dostat sa na turisticke razcestie Hubalova (zo Zochovej chaty napr. po modrej alebo ak nemusime asfaltky tak po zltej na cermak a potom po cervenej na Hubalovu), ked sme na Hubalovej po pravej ruke sa nachadza brana do obory a vedla nej je vybudovany prelez pre pesich, ten pouzijeme a pokracujeme po vrstevnici lesnou cestou az na huncokarsku lucku :o)
Nezabudnite si odpisat, odfotit, naucit sa naspamat alebo zobrat jeden kusok skladacky ak chcete najst aj bonusovku :o)

Upozornenie: Krabicka sa nenachadza v objekte horarne !!! Prosim nerozoberajte rozpadnute murivo. Hint sa vztahuje na iny objekt :o).


Nieco o Huncokaroch

Huncokari - holzhackeri, (z Holz - drevo, a Hacke - sekera) boli bavorski a tirolski drevorubaci, ktori prisli na uzemie Malych Karpat v polovici 18. storocia s nastupom vlady cisarovnej Marie Terezie (1740-1780).
Sami sa nazyvali Waldleute (lesni, horski ludia) a pomenovanie huncokar vnimali ako posmesne. V oblasti Pezinka boli usadzovani nielen na Palffyovskych majetkoch (na pozvanie ktorych prisli), ale jednotlive rodiny zili roztrusene aj po horskych samotach (najvacsie sidlisko bolo Modra - Piesok).
Prvy, pisomne dolozeny krst dietata huncokarov je z roku 1740, co sa mohlo stat skoro po prichode prvych mladych parov do oblasti Malych Karpat. Prvy huncokarsky sobas je zaznamenany v roku 1853 v Castej a o 10 rokov neskor aj v Modre. Stretavame sa tu najma s priezviskami Holzhacker, Hacker, Holzfäller, Geschwantner, Schwantner, Graus.

Huncokari vykonavali cinnost drevorubacov na zaklade technologii, ktore neboli v danom obdobi, na tomto uzemi zavedene. Ich sluzba mala dedicny charakter, bola odmenovana zarobkom a deputacnymi vyhodami. K pravam drevorubacov patrilo aj uzivanie domu, zahradky, role a kosnej luky. Zaroven mohli past dve kravy, jalovicu a neobmedzeny pocet osipanych.

Sposobom zivota a prace bola tato skupina socialne izolovana. Zili priamo v horach, mali vlastne sviatky (sv. Vincent 22. januar, sv. Maria Magdalena 22. jul a put na Cerveny Kamen 15. septembra) a spolocenske stretavania, do mesta schadzali len na nakupy a do kostola. Tuto izolovanost umocnovala aj endogamnost skupiny.

Vyznamnym zlomov v zivote "horskych ludi" bolo uzakonenie povinnej skolskej dochadzky v druhej polovici 20. rokov. Deti sa tak prirodzene dostavali do kontaktu s ludmi z "dola". Navyse castokrat dochadzali niekolko kilometrov do skoly a hlavne v zime sa sneh staval neprekonatelnou barierou. Rodicia riesili tento problem prechodnym ubytovanim deti v dedinach v podnajme, alebo cele rodiny sa stahovali blizsie k sidlam.

Zaciatkom druhej svetovej vojny zilo v Malych Karpatoch priblizne 800 osob hlasiacich sa k huncokarom. Podla risskeho branneho zakona patrili medzi tzv. etnickych Nemcov a museli narukovat do nemeckej armady. Vdaka ideologii propagovanej Deutsche Partei (kazdy Nemec je nacionalny socialista) a premisy o kolektivnej vine bola vacsina z tych, co prezili II.sv. vojnu, po vojne deportovana do Nemecka.




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Lord's house
The cache will bring you to Huncokar's meadow with gamekeeper's house - namesake of famous gamekeeper's house located in the Piesok village (see waypoint). Why are the gamekeeper's houses names identical we did not find out (but we will further search : o)).
Lord's house in the Piesok village is standing at the end of a "Lord's walkway" which Modra's townspeople used to trips to the Small Carpathians mountains. It has quickly become a favourite place for townspeople. There were established "Modra's town association". The first chairman was A. Filipek. The association was focused on cultural and social events (theatre, choir, library, reading books and magazines, etc.), but it also organized walks in the mountains of Modra. Within its activities, the association also searched for hiking trails, of which around 50 km was in 1892 marked, issued a map of the Small Carpathian Mountains, began to build a resort Harmonia and gave rise to the creation of a "Modra tourist club".

The base is getting to the tourist crossroads Hubalova (from Zochova chata follow blue marked path. If you do not like asphalt roads, you can follow yellow marked path to Cermak and then red marked path to Hubalova). At Hubalova crossroad is iron gate to enclosure. There is a wood ladder also, use it and then follow forest path and GPS navigation. Forest path will lead you to Huncokar's meadow :o)
Do not forget to take one piece of the puzzle if you can find a Bonus cache : o)

Warning: Cache is not hiden in gamekeeper's house !!! Please, do not dismantle walls of gamekeeper's house. Hint refers to another building structures :o).


Few words about Huncokars

Huncokars - Holzhacker (from Holz - wood, and Hacke - hatchet) were Bavarian and Tyrolean loggers who came to the territory of the Small Carpathians in the mid-18th century, during the government of Empress Maria Theresa (1740-1780).
They called itself as “Waldleute” (forest, mountain people) and naming huncokar perceived as mockingly. Individual families lived scattered in the mountains (largest housing estate was Modra - Piesok).
The first Huncokar's child baptism, documented in writing, is from 1740. It could happen soon after the arrival of the first young couples in the Small Carpathians region. We meet here in particular with surnames Holzhacker, Hacker, Holzfäller, Geschwantner, Schwantner, Graus.

The Huncokars used new technologies that have not been used in this area in that time. They had the right to use of the house, garden, roles and hay meadows. They also could shepherd two cows, heifer and an unlimited number of pigs.
Because of way of life and work, this group has been socially isolated. They resided in the mountains, they had their own holidays (St. Vincent - January 22, St. Maria Magdalene - July 22 and pilgrimage to the Cerveny Kamen castle - September 15) and own social meetings. They came to the town only for shopping and to church. A significant fault in the life of „mountain people“ was the enactment of compulsory schooling in the second half of the 20th years in 20 century.

At the beginning of World War II lived in the Small Carpathian Mountains about 800 persons belonging to Huncokars. According to Imperial Defence Act were among the so-called ethnic Germans and had to enlist in the German army. Thanks to an ideology promoted by the Deutsche Partei (every German is National Socialists) and the premise of collective guilt, the majority of WWII survivors were deported to Germany after the war.


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Zdroj textu (sources):
Zudel J., Dubovsky J., a kol.: Dejiny Modry, vydalo mesto Modra, ISBN 80-969550-3-9, 2006.
Habanova, G.: K niektorym problemom intra- a extraskupinovych vztahov drevorubacov tzv. Huncokarov v Malych Karpatoch. In: Zmeny v hodnotovych systemoch v kontexte kazdodennej kultury. Vysledky vyskumov v roku 1992. Bratislava, 1992, s. 66 - 85.
Materialy Turisticko-informacneho centra, Modra-Harmonia
http://www.lesy.sk/files/lesnik/2003/Lesnik4/postopach.htm


Ostatne zo serie "Po stopach Huncokarov" (others from this series):

Po stopach Huncokarov II - Cintorin (GC2XWT4)
Po stopach Huncokarov III - Kaplnka (GC2XXE2)
Po stopach Huncokarov IV - Skola (GC3R67N)
Po stopach Huncokarov V - Rybnicek (GC2XY72)
Po stopach Huncokarov - Bonus (GC2WBWJ)

Additional Hints (Decrypt)

ibaxnwfv ebu - miahgen / bhgfvqr pbeare - sebz vafvqr

Decryption Key

A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M
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N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z

(letter above equals below, and vice versa)