Eldering: It turns out i just don't have enough time for this so i am taking dot plotter's advice and archiving it. i am also prety new to this. dot plotter made it sound like it would be able to be taken over by anyone who wants to if i archive it which is what i would like. sorry again about all the problems and to whoever wants to adopt this cache just be aware that the box and log book are no longer there they were destroyed and I had to throw them out so you will have to get new ones. (waterproof this time I hope or you could change the spot) Thanks for your cooperation and patience And i hope everone will enjoy the new cache