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November 21 by Kenmore (876 found) This one caused me some difficulty but today I finally put it to rest. I think this was my 5th visit but to be fair I boxed myself into the geometry of the puzzle and was convinced I had the right solution... and nothing else could possibly be the right solution so it took me a couple of visits before I finally had to let go and free my mind to other possibilities and - Surprise!! - there was the cache . In fairness binthair said he went out 5 times to check it out so I feel like I can rationalize that I should put just as much effort into finding it (and I think I did). Lots of interesting things to see along the way (on each of my visits) so not all was lost. Dropped a compass (in case the next finder needs it to find their way home ) and grabbed a TB. Many thanks for keeping these caches alive.
[view this log] | November 20 by theF00L (27 found) Where to start. The day began around 8 am with a trip to moss back canyon to complete mossback. We arrived back in Ottawa around 6 and after only a breif break were back out the door and headed for our starting point. Now I have done a number of caches with G Fours so you might think I would have developed a better honed ability to know when I need to be the voice of sense and reason, but as G Fours points out with a name like theF00L that voice never seems to be mine. Having said this, this outing pushed me to my limit. somewhere around hour 6 when G Fours suggested we check out one more spot I began pondering the moral if not the legal implecations of wrestling the GPS from my caching partner and making a break for home. Fortunaly I was saved from having to make that decision by the sudden finding of the cache. Congrats G Fours on completing the challenge. I never doubted you for a second ( more like minutes a good half hour at the most).
[view this log] | November 16 by G_Fours (203 found) WOW, I wanted to save this on for last, and as most of my Binthairs had been done in the dark I figured it would only be appropriate that I finish in the dark as well.Whoot, I'm now an   AFC member  (BTW my jacket size is 42, there are jackets right?) and   200 finds   I'm logging this one as found today because, I found it today, really early today. However in relation to my personal cycle of days and night it was yesterday. Now yesterday was a big day of caching. 527 km of car and hike for, including this one, two caches. I am insane, but I wanted to finish the Binthair Challenge at 200 so I did. The plan to tackle this one last night was hatched in the car on the way home from MOSSBACK. The great thing about caching with someone called theF00L is when you make a suggestion of questionable judgment you can count on him to not be the voice of reason and spoil all your fun. So at 8:30pm we set out to find our Surprise. We did this as intended, without any forensic dissection of the logs, trolling through the image gallery for relieving pictures, with only a GPSr and questionable math in the field. I won't say too much about our experience last night, I don't want to spoil the fun for any one else. I will however say this, "There is a point P on the perimeter of the circle where angle U has its greatest blah, blah, blah" .Try this instead, "There is a point P on the perimeter of the circle where you haven't checked yet". Thanks to Narcissa for the encouragement and to theF00L for keeping the coyotes at bay. Also, thanks to the CCC for maintaining these caches so I could spend six hours walking in circles, and Binthair for his evil genius. TNLNSL, TFTC.
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| November 8 by ottawabirdbrain (549 found) #544 - Found at 3PM with cacheswithwolves. After 5 (at least) attempts over a year and a half, cacheswithwolves and I finally found this cache. The most humorous being the first (see the log of February 3, 2007). The cache wasn't where I thought it should be (since we couldn't find it there), so it was down to walking the circle or trying a set of alternative locations. As we were short on time, we went for the alternatives and came up lucky. Only one out of four feet got wet (we were getting rather good at finding the routes in and out). I'm still not satisfied with what went wrong on this one, so I'll be doing more homework and updating this log or adding a note at some point in time.We left a travel bug, a geocoin and a nice pin. Did not take anything.
[view this log] | November 1 by Taoiseach (1451 found) Well, this is it - The last of the Binthairs...Narcissa and I came by a couple of days before, hoping to be able to get the tag information. As we selected the closest available parking, we were suddenly faced with a sizable water hazard! And so we left. Today, with Narcissa's son staying with Garmin Gal & Tanglebones, we headed back for another try... this time armed with a scrap pallet, graciously donated by the Lumber Department of the nearby Home Depot and we were able to get across quite easily. When we stopped at The Home Depot, I went in, and there was a small selection of pallets for me to choose from. I had asked one of the receivers the night before if I could take one today, and they were more than happy to let me have one. Apparently, we were going to pay someone to come and take all of the scrap pallets at one point! I chose the one that seemed to have the most favourable size to weight ratio. When I took it out to the car, it was just too long, and I was forced to take it back in and trim it a little bit. As funny as it would have been to have thrown it on the panel saw and cut it that way (We can't cut anything thicker than 3/4"), that probably would have got me in some sort of trouble, particularly as one of my many, many bosses was nearby. Instead, I elected for the hand saw. At least I got a slightly funny look from a customer when I casually grabbed the hand saw without even having to look for it . Once I trimmed off the ends, I took it back out, and it was still too long! Close enough - We MADE it fit, and I got to enjoy a rather uncomfortable ride out to the first waypoint. Crossing the stream was not particularly difficult, but the midway log was somewhat less stable than I would have liked when I was moving the pallet. I put the pallet in the water, we crossed to the log, and then I had to move the pallet to the other side of the log in order to get to the rock which would let us get to the opposite shore... As I said, it was a decent sized water hazard, but we remained completely dry! Once we arrived at the first waypoint, it was fortunate that I had my Oregon, as I was able to quickly rule out the first tag that we had found, and got the right one. The other tag that we had found was a relic from a very old multi. In order to preserve the integrity of the cache, I'll skip ah3ad to our actually finding the cache. We found it, opened up a binthair for perhaps the last time, and finally made our mark in the log. We sat around and had what has come to be known as a 'binthair-party,' Narcissa enjoying a bottle of Moet & Chandon, and I a bottle of Hobgoblin. While we sat there, a farmer come by with his manure spreader a couple of times, but we fortunately avoided its spray... As we left, Narcissa, with her inhibitions slightly lowered, attempted to follow me in my performance of Cú Chulainn's Salmon Leap across the creek. She almost made it, but still managed to get one foot wet... As we walked back to the car, the car that would take us to our celebration at Wally's, the very heart of the binthair challenge, there was much rejoicing. How fitting that my first time at Wally's was as a Binthair All-Finder.! I had the lasagna, by the way. Binthair, if you're out there watching, I'd like to thank you for all of the fun that we've had finding your caches, and I'd also like to thank everyone in the CCC for preserving these wonderful caches so well. Thank you all! Found - 3:50 PM TNLN - TFTC! -Taoiseach, TD, AFC 
[view this log] | November 1 by narcissa (1183 found) This morning Taoiseach and I set out, determined to complete Maximum Surprise in ONE trip. I had played around with some geometry beforehand, so I had a good idea of what to do once we found the required information.We had visited the site a few days earlier, and decided not to cross the sizeable water hazard at that time. Today, we came back armed with a small-but-sturdy discarded skid from The Home Depot, and easily crossed the first major obstacle of the day. We were momentarily confused by a VERY old tag placed quite close to the tag we wanted - only two decimal places? Whaaa? Thankfully, Taoiseach had the cache page close at hand, and we quickly found what we were looking for. After some math in the field, a bit of driving, some hiking, some bushwhacking, a close encounter with a manure spreader, some more math in the field, more bushwhacking, more hiking, a quick phone call, and a bit more bushwhacking, we had the cache in hand. It took longer than I initially anticipated, but when we found the cache we were dry, and we were cheerful. More than cheerful - we were downright giddy. We sat down at the GZ for our last "Binthair Party" - I sipped Moet & Chandon while Taoiseach enjoyed a bottle of Hobgoblin. After the bubbly, getting back to the car proved to be almost as challenging as getting to the cache was, but with my inhibitions somewhat lowered I confidently attempted a Taoiseach-esque leap across another water obstacle, managing to get across with just the very bottom of my pant leg getting wet. As we walked the last half-mile to the car, the sun was setting behind us and the moon was rising ahead of us. A fitting end to the day, and to the Binthairs. Thank you, Binthair, for the brain-cramping puzzles, the leg-cramping hikes, the tears, the laughter, the surprises, the thorns, the tags, and the indelible memories. <3
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| October 24 by Garmin Gal (673 found) Found it.What a simple end to such a long-running series of hair-pulling solution attempts, head-slapping a-ha moments, long treks on beautiful trails of glorious fall colours, bushwacks as thick as any tropical jungle, water-filled boots, sunburns, DNFs and victory dances. Early this morning, Tanglebones and I had one last binthair to do. We had spent many hours poring over the cache description and a couple of photos that we had taken on previous visits of some key information, and had successfully convinced ourselves that this cache was more difficult than we had thought. Not so, it seems. We finally checked with previous finders to see if we were really out to lunch, and "right ballpark" sounded good enough to us! So we headed off down the now somewhat familiar trail in a light drizzle. At our chosen spot, we carefully picked our way across the water hazard, and moved in to GZ. I was just starting to doubt our solution, and commented to Tanglebones that "This really doesn't look very 'binthair-esque'." My eyes strayed upward - and I caught a glimpse of something that looked mighty suspiciously like a geocache! At this point, I normally would have pretended not to have seen it, and hung back a little to enjoy the sight of Tanglebones trying to find it. However, in my astonishment, my jaw dropped open, and Tanglebones immediately knew that I'd seen it (must remember to never play poker for real money...). It was a bittersweet moment - the elusive container that we'd spent months trying to find casually spotted from several metres away in a few seconds. Where was the fanfare? No angels descended from on high to sing Allelujah? I had at least thought that there would be a 3-D holograph of Kirok demonstrating the secret handshake for the the All Finds Club members...  We briefly revelled in our find; however, the rain that had kindly restrained itself to a drizzle earlier turned into full downpour. We decided that we would try a different route back, in an effort to find an easier route across the water hazard. You would think that we would know better by now. The resulting route contained not one, but two, water hazard crossings, the second one ending in water in my boots, to my knees and a laughing Mockingbones dry on the other side. If only there were security cameras out there, I'm sure a video playback would reveal him nudging me in... Completing this series has taught me several razzle-dazzle 'em GPSr party tricks; searching cooperatively and competitively with a number of fellow cachers has found me some good friends; I have discovered a wide range of interesting locations in and around Ottawa that I am certain I would *never* have found on my own; learned about cryptography and various other nefarious means of hiding valuable information (if you're reading this searching for a hint, you won't get it here!) Lastly, I must add that it has introduced the "Hypothetically..." game into my circle of geo-friends, in itself a rich reward.  Thank you, binthair cache maintainers. Your efforts are much appreciated. If I can be of assistance, I will be glad to help. Thank you fellow geocachers, for various hints and assistance on a number of caches in this series - you're all "good people." Thank you binthair, for the soggy memories. Found it. TNL-trackable Satellite X-ing pin #660 [This entry was edited by Garmin Gal on Monday, October 26, 2009 at 10:44:34 AM.] [This entry was edited by Garmin Gal on Monday, October 26, 2009 at 10:47:21 AM.]
[view this log] | October 24 by Tanglebones (551 found) Found today, in company with Garmin Gal. This was our 44th and final Binthair cache, and what a fitting end to the series. Not only did it prove, once again, that my math skills are woefully inadequate, but also that my common-sense-o-meter needs a severe recalibration. This one has actually taken me months to solve, because I just couldn't see how it could be done.A number of weeks ago, I sat down to work out how this could be solved and started to have a glimmer of how it could be done - both mathematically and in the field. Having gone out once already, then been forced to retreat with a DNF, I decided to take the mathematical route. After mulling it over for a while, I took my first possible solution to past previous solvers, with strict instructions not to give me any hints -but simply to confirm whether or not my thinking was correct. My calculated GZ turned out be slightly below 'abysmal failure' in terms of accuracy, and I realized I was applying a constraint that didn't need to be there. Once I removed this self-imposed shackle from my thinking, it actually became quite easy and once again I derived a set of coordinates. Today, with some rare free time, Garmin Gal and I headed out. She independently calculated GZ to be within 10m or so of mine, and of course refused to listen to reason when I told her that mine simply had to be just the teensiest bit more accurate than hers. Naturally, I attribute the fact that hers turned out to be closer to the actual GZ than mine (by millimetres, I'm sure), to be nothing more than signal bounce. Damn inaccurate billion dollar satellites! We took our previous route in and had to make some difficult terrain decisions. Of course, we picked all the right ones going in and all the wrong ones coming out. GG found the cache first, while I craned my neck around in every direction - desperately scanning, despite that air of amused anticipation radiating from Gloating Gal. Finally the cache was in hand. On the way out, faithfully taking the most difficult route possible, 'we' had a little accident. I was standing on a slippery log, fording a stream, when suddenly there is a crack and I start dropping! To my extreme amusement, that crack was from under Goin'down Gal's feet, not mine, and she went crashing feet-first into the water. I was concerned for the first few seconds, of course, but then I started to laugh. I think she appreciated my lighthearted attempts to brighten her spirits, despite the slitted eyes and hissing threats she was menacingly firing off in my direction. Still chuckling in mirth, while avoiding the occasional pointed walking stick poking into my backside, we continued our roundabout way to the car. So, the series is over for us. I remember the first time I looked at the Binthair Challenge and took a glance at all the puzzles. They were so far beyond my skill set, I had no hope of completing them, and so didn't even try. It was a fortuitous geo-expediton arranged by the PFSMCC that made me think I could do these. That first one was The Twist, and it gave me the confidence to try some others. Thanks to all the folks who helped and/or encouraged, and a special thanks to rossmtbiker and Esiban for selflessly encouraging newbies like myself to do the series. To those who look down their noses at groups like that, I simply say a very heartfelt 'get bent'. I can think of very few others who would, routinely, drive all the way across the city to encouragingly participate in a cache they'd already done several times. Of course, a hearty thanks to binthair for creating these. Maddening, frustrating, annoying, vexing and challenging to be sure - but well worth doing. I tip my hat to you, sir, for a job well done. Finally, thanks also to Garmin Gal, who was there with me for (almost) all of them. Sometimes helping, sometimes mocking - but there every step of the way regardless. TN, Left TB, SL. TFTC. - TB
[view this log] | October 20 by elyob (1082 found) Dear cache maintainers, I am sorry for my recent whining. The MINIMUM SURPRISE is that - before today - I did not read all the words in the final instructions. I'm glad I read those instructions once again. I then headed out the hundreds of additional metres to a location chosen by logic (I'm not good with math). After abruptly finding myself in chest-high water, I then realised I'd gone just a bit too far. The swim suit kept the cell phone dry.I haven't yet found the cache but even if this isn't the correct GZ, I'll be coming back for further investigations. For me, this adventure is just the right length for cardio workouts (and that's my excuse for not reading the instructions with enough care). Maybe the next trip will be on snowshoes (immediately after a found entry in the logs). [This entry was edited by elyob on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 4:41:35 PM.]
[view this log] | August 26 by elyob (1082 found) My geoSchnauzer got home tonight. Since Ziggy is not allowed on those trails, I thought I should solo visit the nasty surprise one more time. Again, ninety minutes of failure. It's fun to read the logs about all the trouble getting in there. Being familiar with those trails, I'll have no problem getting back to where I need to be. It's not fun being unable to see what I need to see. I don't know what to do next so I guess I'll just add this to my watch list.
[view this log] | June 17 by portera (985 found) Binthair #32 for me!I had looked at this cache and thought I had an idea of how the math would work. Pokaroo went out on a tag hunt and then we all sat down on our own and did the math. We were definitely surprised when we went on our first hunt, but I had no time budgeted for surprises, so we had to bail. More thinking and theorizing ensued, and a new GZ was agreed upon. Again, as the only member of the team who still as to work for a living, I was not available for the ensuing hunts. Today I went off solo, and had an uneventful search. The creeks were quite dry. Binthair #4 of Binthair Day. Took and left nothing, signed the log. Thanks for the cache!
[view this log] | June 15 by nosense (660 found) Yes, we know the trails well. Sadie led Pokaroo and me over many kilometres of the area and after several recalculations we ended up with the proper container. The water is low tight now in case any one else wants to check out the terrain. This one was quite a chase. TNLN SL --nosense--
[view this log] | June 15 by Pokaroo (1258 found) FINALLY after 5 visits to this area the cache is now in hand. Out with Nosense and Sadie today. Took a rather different approach but it seemed to work out well. I guess my math is just not as good as I thought it was. But persistance paid off. All to say I know the area fairly well at this point. Cache was in great shape. Missed the rain today... by that much. TNLN SL TFTC
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| May 17 by The Fossils (1857 found) After getting the interim WPs last summer, finally finished this one off today. Long but very pleasant walk.T - basketball patech; L - eraser. Thanks, The Fossils
[view this log] | December 30, 2008 by SigsPig (1339 found) Sunny & -17ºC with the windchill. After ruling out a possible parking spot due to a natural hazard, selected an old reliable spot. Gunner was very happy with the snowshoe packed trail. I continued to have Deja Vu along the way. Unfortunately, my map didn't provide detail of some of the natural hazards that I had to call a friend to narrow down my options. As it turned out, I crossed at one spot & came back on another so have fun next finder(s). My GPS indicated a spot but I decided to circle around & sure enough, a very familiar container indeed. Unfortunately, when I pulled out the camera for a log book pic, I was greeted with a low battery warning light. Snapped a picture anyways & am hoping for the best. T - nothing L - KofC patch & flashlight TFTC, puzzle & hike
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| December 28, 2008 by Geo-Cat! (415 found) This one was definately a challenge. Decided to go for it with Geopiel and Rossmtbiker while still on a high from finding Sleepless.I figured out the HOW to solve the puzzle during a bout of insomnia the night before and then did the actual MATH while IN THE FIELD (not recommended). Winter is definitely the time to do this cache. It was really warm, which was nice for the frostbite aspect, but no so nice for the wet feet part... Geopiel was there the day before and we followed some of his tracks around...and around...and around. He swore that these were shortcuts, and most of them were, but I swear we crossed the same creek 8 times. "Feeders" he called them... ;-) Slightly harder going than earlier in the day - the windstorm was trying valiantly to blow us backwards and Samwise enjoyed trying to ride on the backs of our snowshoes. Made it to the coordinates and definitely saw evidence of Geopiel's earlier foray. Found the cache alright and made sure we replaced it in a slightly more winter friendly fashion. This was definitely a satisfying find! TFTC!!
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| December 28, 2008 by GeoPiel (1199 found) OK, so I'm back sooner than I expected. Meeting Geocat, RmB & samwise, the 4 of us made it back along my familiar showshoe trail to the calculated GZ. With RmB finding the cache before, he was tagging along for moral support! With the temp being above freezing for 2 days now, and rain, the prev snowshoe trail was becoming quite faint as the snow pack was greatly reduced.The melting snow had one great side effect - when I approached the GZ coordinates this time, the container was just barely sticking out of the snow, right in the middle of some of the snowshoe tracks I had left 2 days ago. Aaaarghh!! This quickly turned to rejoycing, as Geocat and I recovered the container, and took appropriate action. The grin on RmB's face turned into a big smile with the two of us in our happy-place. We returned the container to it's intended hiding spot wedged in the tree, and were off. The terrain is indeed varied.... and as binthair notes, this cache is not for wimps. I did all my searching in the winter - when I think the terrain is at it's easiest, and have great admiration for anyone doing a summer retrieval! After what seemed like forever, we made it back to the cars, and I'm delighed to get this one completed. I think this was the toughest haul yet for a binthair.... #41 for me.
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| December 26, 2008 by GeoPiel (1199 found) Full of optimism, I headed out today confident that I would snag this cache. Shoeshoing through the fresh deep snow, I made my way to my calculated GZ, and started the search pattern. Extending my search along the arc of the circle, I came to a very binthair like spot 40m away. This has got to be it! Admiring the great trees around me, I started a systematic approach searching for the cache. The fresh snow provided a great tracklog, and after 40 minutes, I was starting to loose hope I'd find this cache. Started to sink in at the 60 minute mark. Re-tracing my steps, I continued to search for the cache - did it drop into the snow and get buried? Hmmm. Light starting to fade, and I though I should call it a day and head out before it got dark. No cache, but great spot - discovered stone foundations of an old dwelling under the snow. I'll be back.
[view this log] | December 13, 2008 by GeoPiel (1199 found) In the neighbourhood today and had some time to do some showshoeing in the area on this crisp, clear, blue snowy morning. Interesting place to park - and nice historic schoolhouse. Made my way to the first tag in the flawless and fluffy snow cover - though a bit steep in some places. Found a fresh kill from a hawk enroute: tiny sploches of red in this pristine area, with bits of fir and bone scattered around an area where the wings left distinct brushings in the powdery dry snow. First tags where quickly found, then the cursing began shortly after. Enjoyed the varied terrain as I made my way to the next tag site, which easy to locate as I approached. As my colorado-300 can not do proximity circles (ughh), I will need to head back home to torment the solution, and plot out the candidate resting spot. I'll be back.
[view this log] | November 2, 2008 by TomT5454 (133 found) Found the maximum point by GPS alone, as intended. Walked the 195 m ring on the side of the circle that seemed likely, inspecting likely trees. Found cache on the ground, put it up firmly into crotch of tree I had been approaching.Old bridge near N 45° 21.712' W 075° 33.279' for those who find themselves on the wrong side of Ramsayville Creek. T E.T. Travel Bug L Obsolete foreign coins TFTC
[view this log] | September 6, 2008 by GreyingJay (1307 found) The previous logs from my friends say it all. I don't know why they had to pick the one rainy day out of weeks of dry hot weather, but that's how it worked out, and there we were, soaking wet from head to toe after completing some previous caches. I was actually prepared to call it quits and leave early, knowing full well I'd miss out on kashtin's final find and celebrations. But by then the rain had let up a bit, and we were so close, I decided to stick it out. I changed into some drier clothes and steeled myself for yet more hiking in the wet woods, which only added to the whole experience.Needless to say the surprise was quite... surprising! But we took it all in stride and soon had the cache in hand. I think I would have enjoyed the cache much more had I not been wet and cold, but the celebration was what made it justifiable in the end! After we found the cache, we returned to the cars for some coolers and donuts... and then I changed out of my soaked pants and socks (all my shirts and jackets had been soaked by this time). I actually stopped by Costco on our way back to buy myself a new pair of dry pants and socks. We finished off the day with a delicious all-you-can-eat sushi lunch, which had been a major "carrot" in getting us all through the day! And when I finally got home, a hot shower never felt so good! Congratulations kashtin on completing all the binthair caches!
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| September 6, 2008 by shadow_44 (328 found) Found with Kashtin,GreyingJay & opichi grazt on finishing the Binthair Challenge kashtin TNLNSL-TFTC
[view this log] | September 6, 2008 by kashtin_13031 (1213 found) And so ends my Binthair Challenge. It was a fun time trying to get all 44 active caches, but after having to wait for two straight weekends and not knowing when I would be able to complete the challenge we(GreyingJay,opichi, shadow_44, Esiban, rossmtbiker & I) went out today and got the last two Binthairs that I needed. We were all very wet after already finding two Binthairs before this one. Hopefully now I don't get the Binthair curse. 44th and final Binthair. TNLNSL TFTC
[view this log] | September 6, 2008 by opichi (1221 found) Found with Kashtin,GreyingJay & Shadow_44 TNLNSL-TFTC
[view this log] | September 6, 2008 by rossmtbiker (1420 found) It was a very wet, long bushwhack, but it was great to be with Kashtin as she found her very last binthair cache and officially joined the All Finds Club. Esiban, GreyingJay, Opichi, and Shadow were also there. Afterwards we hiked back to the cars to pop open some bubbly for a celebratory drink and doughnut, then off to enjoy some sushi. Congratulations Kashtin, you rock! L - ET TB
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| July 30, 2008 by npsh (636 found) This was one of those experiences that makes me wonder about my sanity. Already wet from another bushwack, I figured I couldn't get any wetter. I went out in the rain and found my calculations were accurate to 2 m. Getting to the final was an exercise in wading through tangled raspberry cane and about 5 kinds of grain. It was very exhausting, and I now smell like a horse barn.
[view this log] | July 15, 2008 by GPComd (1384 found) Another cache that was done over 3 visits. Got tag info on the first two, and then went for the cache today. Pretty close to two hours car to car. I followed pretty good trails for about 90% of the distance, but that doesn't really matter when you're bulldozing your way through alders, 6' weeds, raspberries (yum!) and everything else. At least I only crossed 1 minuscule creek, and all the swampy areas were dried up.Took nothing, left a wooden sig coin. GPC Binthair #23
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| July 4, 2008 by obstacle-man (234 found) Found it with Esiban and Rossmtbiker. I was really glad to have Ross, or at least his garmin on hand. His GPSr knows a lot more fancy tricks than mine. Despite the bushwacking and getting wet it was a lot of fun. Hopefully the first of many Binthar's for me. T- Helicopter L- Dinosaur
[view this log] | July 4, 2008 by rossmtbiker (1420 found) Found it this evening with Esiban and obstacle-man. It was a tough cache but we found it all in one trip, with no outside help, about 2.5 hours car-to-car. Not to say we didn't have our difficulties. We crossed five streams, bushwhacked through too many raspberry canes, were eaten by thousands of mosquitoes, and my dog smells like a swamp. I'm so glad Esiban was with us, she found all the tags and the cache container, "hypothetically speaking" Our coordinates were bang on which saved us a lot of time in the end because we (make that I) made one small math error. We were really pleased to find the cache in one trip, but the mosquitoes were so bad, our log comments were rather abbreviated. T-CITO coin Thanks!
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| July 4, 2008 by Esiban (1635 found) Found it tonight with Obstacle-man and rossmtbiker. 2 soaked boots 1 stick in the eye More mosquito bites than I care to think about Finding this cache on our first try and in roughly 2 hours - PRICELESS! T: Nothing L: CITO Coin (which rossmtbiker promptly grabbed) TFTC
[view this log] | April 26, 2008 by hidnseek (1216 found) I will admit I tried to cheat on this cache with what I knew and geoforensics but that failed meserably as a question to one person for a clarification lead me completely astray. After lunch with the family (got to stay in the good books) I picked up our 9year old neighbour (thorn) and took sharp eyes (aka splash the clumpsy cacher today) we spent 3+ hours and relied on phone a friend(s) but again got conflicting info. Once splash had water in both in her boots we said 10mins and then off for ice cream, of course then we spot it AWAYS from our GZ. However later at dinner my neighbour still wants to come out tomorrow so this did not scare her off! think it was the 5$ she found in the cache that she then took that will keep her caching! 2nd binthair of the day and now 6 to go!
[view this log] | March 29, 2008 by Jman & Magoo (2187 found) Found with Magoo, very nice area and we were lucky enough to see a few deer. Calculations, remember "math is your friend", were 6 meters off the GZ; and we were so close with our recce last weekend that it wasn't even funny, should have trusted the "binthair tingle". After a job well done we sat and enjoyed the sunshine and had a picnic.Left Binthair Tribute geocoin, Man! I am glad to have gotten rid of it in a timely manner and avoid "the curse" , I pity the next person to grab it. It might just be the 11-year sunspot cycle, but while I had it in my possession the GPSr never seemed to point in the same direction for long. Once I unloaded the geocoin I swear we heard Angels sing. Dipped Magoo's & my personal geocoins. Took 2 glass beads. TFTC Binthair, wherever you are. 
[view this log] | January 29, 2008 by Nozzletime (8377 found) I had to go to Ottawa today, so I had this one solved or so I thought. I had found the tags a couple of years ago but couldn't leave the dog in the car for the extra time needed to complete it. I did the math at home, and wasn't sure of one number so I had a couple of places to search today. Turns out I was fairly close with one of my numbers. Fun cache, well except for the no dogs sign. Thanks Nozzletime & Smudge
[view this log] | January 22, 2008 by RitchieD (351 found) You would think I suffered enough Déjà Vu for one day but since I was in the area I thought I would give this cache another try. I invested several days back in early December on this one and achieved everything but finding the cache. I wrongly guessed it to be NOT winter friendly but since it was found recently, I was left with new hope.This time, I re-read the instructions and saw my December mistake. I must remember, read twice, measure twice and walk once. L: $5 (for next new finder) T: (nothing) TFTC, binthair #23
[view this log] | January 20, 2008 by Mr. Packrat (3794 found) Found with pilgrimofthemind. The creeks around here are still flowing so if anyone else wants to come and get it I would suggest they wait for some more cold days so they freeze up. Only one more to go. TNLN
[view this log] | January 20, 2008 by pilgrimofthemind (635 found) I grabbed all of the tag information yesterday but ran out of time. It wasn't a place I wanted to be at wandering around after dark. I managed to somehow successfully navigate my way over the creek or a branch of it six different times and hop/slide over/under 2 fences. Anyway, I came up with a location and Mr. Packrat said he would join me today. Turns out he needed me to finish off what he started and was unsuccessful on in 5 previous attempts. I walked up to and located the cache immediately. My coordinates were only 10m off. I did need his fine navigation skills though to successfully get me to the GZ. He has been out here enough, he knows his way around. Anyway, we successfully logged this cache today and we both contributed to the finding of it equally. Another binthair off the list. TNLNSL. TFTH!
[view this log] | October 21, 2007 by ami620 (68 found) 3rd time lucky as well. The first time out I gathered the tag information...then ran out of time. The second time out I completed part of the challenge...then ran out of time. Today with, you guessed it, time running out, I grabbed it about 12 m from my calculated GZ. Good to get another binthair out of the way.
[view this log] | September 15, 2007 by Due-North (386 found) Yes - I was surprised.....to find it on the 3rd attempt. I was out with dadndaughter, and was certain I knew where to look, having learned more about this one on my previous outings. My calculated GZ didn't pan out, and I started walking the circle to scout the surrounding area. At one point, my boot lace came untied, and I turned around to tie it up - only to find myself staring at the cache I had just walked by. When that kind of luck happens on a Binthair, its like winning the lottery! Dadndaughter snapped a few pics for posterity, and I took nothing, left a lock 'n key.
[view this log] | September 15, 2007 by dadndaughter (4856 found) Found at 17:55. I was playing 2nd fiddle to Due-North on this one today. I had previously gotten some of the required information but not done the calculations. When we found ourselves in the same general area as the cache this afternoon, Due-North shared his past experience and calculations for this cache and we decided to go after it. Despite the No Dog sign on the trail, we (Due-North, my dog, and I) headed off down the trail watching out all the time for the person Search4 had met (twice). My calcs were about 65m away from his GZ so we each searched our particular GZ. About 10 minutes later, I heard his cry "Found it". He claims it was pure fluke he found it, but I think otherwise. His calcs were better than mine. I spent a fair amount of time picking the burrs out of the dogs fur after we got home. T Lock L Beaded Geko SL TFTC
[view this log] | August 27, 2007 by kcote (1422 found) #396 After a few days spent working on this we were maximally surprised to find the cache! Actually it was right where our GPSr's told us to search. It's a difficult walk out there. The raspberry canes are really high at the moment and not pleasant to bushwack through. On our walk out after finding the cache we met 4 people on horseback. I was worried that they would tell us we weren't supposed to be there, but they didn't question our presence (thanks, search 4, for checking up on the laws for the area!). Cache was nice and dry (and difficult to open!) TNLNSL Thanks for another hunt! Another binthair off the list!
[view this log] | July 18, 2007 by Search 4 (2261 found) This was indeed an epic cache that unfolded as follows:Trip 1: Found the tags without major incident except our toddler having a sitdown strike. Trip 2: As I was offloading my mountain bike at the trailhead I was approached by two women from the stables across the road who informed me that the equestrian trail was for the exclusive use of horseback riders. They repeated a few times that there was no dogs, no bikes and no walking on the trails…only horses. I packed up my bike and continued on. Upon my return home I sent out a few emails. Trip 3: I walked into my GZ in the pouring rain and didn’t find anything except for my dead PDA in an unzipped pocket. It took over a week for it to dry out and come back to life. Trip 4: Tonight I returned with a new gameplan but while parking my car at the trailhead I was again approached by a woman from the stable across the road and who stated that the trail was only for horses. I listened to what she had to say and then asked for her name, contact number and which organization she was speaking on behalf of (all info was readily provided). After taking down her info I asked if she was one of the women that stopped me before (she was). I then explained that following our last discussion, I had contacted the NCC and inquired about the permitted uses for the equestrian trail. I then informed her that the NCC had confirmed that, while biking and dogs were ban, walking was indeed permitted on the equestrian trail and that my comments had been forwarded to the Contract Management Officer of the Greenbelt. The woman changed her tune at that point and conceded that perhaps walking was indeed allowed. I told her that I would only be a few hours at most and then walked through the gate. I then had an epic Binthair adventure filled with trail hiking, bushwhacking, creek jumping, 400m of shoulder deep raspberry bushes, second guessing, PDA dying (again!), more bushwhacking, praying, log signing and a few surprises along the way. I returned to the car in the moonlight, soaked in sweat with a smile on my face. Took nothing, Left a carabineer, SL. TFTH
[view this log] | May 15, 2007 by wareed (1065 found) 1245h. The maximum surprise was finding the cache! Binrat and I picked up the numbers from the tags the other day while the kids waited in the car. Good thing, too: the raspberry canes are like barbed wire. I worked out the point P yesterday and today stopped on the way back from Cheaters Only! If you do the math between when I logged CO! and when I logged this cache, you can see that I wandered around a LONG time. I only found the cache by setting my GPSr to point C and traversing the circle, maintaining the radius distance from the centre. I was in an area quite far from where I thought I should be looking when something caught the corner of my eye and to my (maximum) surprise, it was the cache! Phew! I'm glad not to have to return when the vegetation grows up any more than it has already. T - keychain, L - combo lock TFTC
[view this log] | May 13, 2007 by old fart (693 found) I had wanted to do this one last Fall but the creek was swollen with too much water to even attempt a cross over. Up early this morning,and figured that today was the day depending if I had done this right. Good jog in,and grounds were familiar. Ran into a few deer along the way which are enjoyable at any thime of the year to watch.As I approached GZ I was a bit surprised to see the long anticipated cache there. Opened the cache(great container) and the log book & swag were dry. Checked for TB's and coins but neither could be found in the cache. Signed the log, and started the long walk back. Thanks for the cache.Old Fart!!!
[view this log] | May 3, 2007 by Bibbits (2918 found) Nice! Well I though this would be a quick one to do today after work - Wrong! Had done a bit of work prior (redirects) and figured today is really nice and there are no leaves on the trees yet. I had a theory that kinda worked....kinda! Received a little nudge in the end and I was Maximum Surprised - see photo! Took: Model12 token Left: Key chain It was however a great area to walk except for the NO DOGS sign!!! Thanks Binthair Bibbits
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| April 21, 2007 by NeoDorset (1500 found) Completed this cache using only my GPSr (although I have to note that model12's rubber-band method is pretty ingenuous!), but spent quite some time wandering around at the end. Finally found the cache in what seemed like an unlikely location, but once I found it I checked the angle again and it did seem to fit the description (although I thought the angle was changing in the wrong direction when I moved toward that location - I guess that's the disadvantage of not having the option of using mils). Took Winterlude medal, left Veritas pocket screwdriver.[This entry was edited by NeoDorset on Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 7:19:50 PM.]
[view this log] | April 13, 2007 by model12 (7202 found) 2:14pmMaximum surprise for some maybe, but when you do these kinds of puzzles with paper and pencil, 2 nails, and an elastic band, etc you kind of see things.....suffice it to say that I went out this morning armed with everything I needed to find the cache. Got to my calculated GZ (both of them 9 metres apart) and could not find anything. Water up to my boot tops, a zillion trees, no where to hide anything. I expanded my search area - it's a projection after all - and found what I needed. It was a long walk today via the 'equestrian trail' I believe; it's the one with the 'no horses' signage, right...? I returned to the truck via an alternate route that was a little bit shorter than the way in. The cache is in great shape, nice and dry too. T a pin L a model12 pathtag & SL
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| April 11, 2007 by penguins lament (3108 found) Enjoyed this one... but I must admit that I used paper and pencil more than the GPSr to solve it.TNLSNL Rockhopper (Team Penguins Lament) Find #813
[view this log] | March 27, 2007 by 5davee (2366 found) WooHoo!! binthair #32I found this one on my 3rd visit to the area. When I finally saw the cache it was "Holy crap! How did I miss *that*?" About half way through my 2nd visit something went horribly wrong and I had to rethink my whole approach. I recovered, but I wasn't able to find the cache. On my final visit, it took less than 10 minutes of searching. Altogether, I probably spent over 4 hours searching for this one. In the end, it was all worth it for that buzz you get when you find a binthair cache! T - Belt-clip keychain L - Hot Wheels helecopter TFTC/MPLC
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| March 23, 2007 by 5davee (2366 found) I found all the tags a couple of weeks ago and decided to go check out the area for the cache this morning. There are lots of trails in the area, but I've never been here before and I don't know them. I followed the trails for a while and then had to bushwhack. Unfortunately, the satellite reception is very bad here, and my GPS was jumping all over once I got close to my predicted search area. Eventually I lost satelitte reception all together. After stumbling about in the woods for a while, I decide I'd had enough and headed home. I'm *really* glad I tagged where I parked the car this time.
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| February 3, 2007 by ottawabirdbrain (549 found) I'm pretty embarrassed about this morning's effort, but I might as well log it. Got to the area for waypoint one without much trouble. Could have pulled out the instructions that I had printed off, but, hey, I'm a guy with a GPS, why should I stop and ask for directions. After a bit of searching I found a copper redirect tag, dropped in the coordinates and headed off. Got to the 2nd redirect area and with some searching found another redirect tag. At this point, I could swear that the directions said I was going to find 3 tags. Pulled them out and read them. Noticed some discrepancies with how WP1 went, but hey, it's an old cache and someone has probably maintained it. Still having only 1 tag instead of 3 was worrisome -- that and the fact that the tag accuracy was only 2 digit. In any case, I trudged off through the snow to end up in the middle of, well, nothing really. Trudged back to WP 2 -- about 1.5km round trip. Looked again for more tags ... no luck. Guess it's time to head back. Get back to WP1 area and decide to follow instructions. Low and behold I find another tag with coordinates, just like the directions said I would.Now the smart thing to do at this point is to accept that you've learned (or re-learned) some things (like RTFM). Especially when you are tired from walking more than 4km in the snow. Especially when you've already been in the area where the waypoint is and you are wishing the waypoint was somewhere else. Yes the smart thing would be to go back to the car and call it a morning. Or you could carry on to the real waypoint 2, attempt to cross a creek, and obtain "maximum surprise" in the form of dropping through the ice and be half way up to your knees in ice-cold water with about 1km walk back to your car. Sigh. I'll be back ... and I may even read the instructions a second time.
[view this log] | October 29, 2006 by Bicycleman (679 found) #237/2006/10/29It's over. I won't be startling deer any more in my search for this one. Suffice it to say I did not do it on my first or second try. But persistance does eventually pay off. A word of caution to those attempting it in times of plentiful rain or I would imagine spring runoff. Ramsay Creek is flowing very, very quickly and it is wider than one can safely jump. Even some of the feeder streams are wider that one can jump. Following the equestrian path will get you over it safely. Contents nice and dry. Left swivel hook, took nothing but the joy is seeing this one over. SL
[view this log] | September 24, 2006 by Kirok (1357 found) #323 - Another day of creek crossing and I've finally gotten this one licked. After my failed attempt at finding the container a few days ago, I confirmed with some previous finders that what I did find was where the container should have been. I returned today with the required items to repair the setup, and then "got around" to signing the log. I sloshed my way back to the car just as a couple of people on horseback went by and left me some landmines to avoid. As if the creek crossings weren't enough. Surprise! 38 down, 7 to go!
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| September 22, 2006 by Kirok (1357 found) There's nothing more frustrating about doing a binthair cache, than figuring out a puzzle and NOT finding the container where you think it should be. Having found the tag at WP1 a little while ago, I set out to find the WP2 tags and the cache this evening. After a bit of a grass-whack, I found the tags and settled in to do the calculations. With plausible numbers at the ready, I headed down the trails. I arrived at my GZ to find a LARGE double-trunk white pine tree, which had, in plain view, a familiar binthair style lanyard hanging from one of the lower branches. Sadly, it was chewed up and no container was at the end of it. Having read cron's previous find note, I walked along the circle a bit to see if he had placed it in another similar tree close-by, but none fit the description anywhere near as well as this one. I searched the ground near and in the immediate vicinity of the tree, but found no container. Can a previous finder check on this one to ensure the container is where it's supposed to be?
[view this log] | September 9, 2006 by cron (3384 found) #734 09-09-2006 10h48At last! The first time I went for this one, I was surprised, but not for the valid reason, only because I forgot to keep all the data with me... The second time I went, I couldn't find the container as I was looking for a winter-friendly one. Now I know you should always look anywhere, for any type, just to make sure... This morning, I decided it was a perfect day to test my new life without the curse, so off I went. I took the wrong path and walked about 500 meters in extra... At my GZ, I looked everywhere, but couldn't find the container... I really wanted to bag it this time, so I chose the hard way of walking the "round" line. About 70 meters from my calculated coordinates, I found the container in plain view... I doubt this is the final spot for it, as I really thought my calculated coordinates were correct. I'll verify with a previous finder. Anyway, I hid it in the nearest place where I found it. TNLNSL
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| August 22, 2006 by THE SNIFFER (428 found) Yahoo !!!! Got it at about 5:30 pm. Everything was there. Quite the trek if you take the long way as I did. To my surprise I found another container next to the cache which had a baggy in it. Upon inspection it seems another cacher had cleaned out the cache of damaged/mildewed items. I took nothing and LEFT my FTF Bal des Neiges medallion which was my FTF prize for the MINE cache. TFTC
[view this log] | July 16, 2006 by cron (3384 found) Well... That was the day. I thought I could do a little walk in the woods and collect my 500th, but I was nowhere near any container...It really looked like a prefect spot, but nothing could be found. I'll have to verify my final coordinates before I head out to do this one again. Lots of mosquitoes and black flies. 
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| May 17, 2006 by cron (3384 found) I got all the tags, but as there were too many mosquitoes, I decided to go back to the car to do my calculations. Suddenly, a police car comes by and ask me if I saw a tall guy, wearing a blue jacket and dark pants heading down the trail! What!?! Exactly how I'm dressed! But they were looking for somebody that made some misfits in the area... He told me he was not dangerous... Anyway, I was not sure of the solution and it was now about 1 km away, so I decided to leave this one for another day...
[view this log] | April 11, 2006 by dedale (1706 found) I first tried this one at the same time I did Colourful a few weeks ago but the torrent was too strong and I did not even reached the first WP. This time it was different; with PMassi, we found the tags easily, estimated the position for the cache using one of the three methods we can do in the field using only our GPS and a piece of paper. Our estimate was 70 m from the container but we found it relatively quickly despite this large error. Curious, I checked tonight the other methods and we picked the closest one, total error 0.6 deg compared with Binthair’s best solution.As PMassi mentioned in his log, the container is slightly damaged. If someone wants to do an exchange, we left the “wet toys” in a plastic container next to the cache to avoid damaging the log book (now in a double plastic bag). Thanks Binthair for another great cache! Dedale & PMassi
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| April 11, 2006 by pmassi (1183 found) I wanted to try this one for a long time, but was a bit afraid of the "surprise". Teamed up with dedale. Found the tags easily (all in great shape). Then we proceeded, with no device other than our GPS, and a pencil and paper. We did not even have a calculator (forgot it at home, doh!). We had an idea of where it would be, and made an initial calculated guess, then proceeded by looking on the circle from that point. Everything went smoothly, although it was a good walk (we just walked 3km for another cache... wearing my rubber boots... my feet hurt so bad! )Container had water inside but the log book was dry. The lid is a bit broken. We removed the wet content so the container as a chance to dry, the important thing is the log book anyway. I enjoyed this cache, it makes you think while on the field. pmassi and dedale
[view this log] | January 20, 2006 by Digital Exposure (831 found) Since I was in the area doing another cache nearby I decided to look for this one. After reading some previace logs I had a good idea where to start looking. No problem locating Binthair tags. Found Ground zero after 30min of searching. This one will be hard to find after tonights snowfall. TNLNSL TFTH Digitalexposure
[view this log] | January 15, 2006 by Dan_the_Hutt (214 found) Found at sunset after a 20 min hike. The cache is well sheltered, but still needed some encouragement to come out. TNSL. Left a Kinder "Surprise" of course. This is one of my jinxed caches. Even today, I had to come out twice, since the final coordinates didn't upload to my GPSr.
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| January 8, 2006 by Dan_the_Hutt (214 found) Solved for the location by hand within 1 minute after I returned home. Came back today armed with a shovel to dig up the cache. Turns out I needed the shovel for something else instead 
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| January 7, 2006 by m&mm (184 found) Just a note for you winter cachers, from what I remember, this one isn't very winter friendly (and becoming more unfriendly with every snowfall). This is especially true if you try and 'walk the line' without a plan.
[view this log] | January 7, 2006 by Dan_the_Hutt (214 found) I found WP1 and WP2 easily this afternoon. I then updated my prepared WPs for points A,B, and C. Next I activated all of my meticulously prepared routes that instantly created a Thoalian-like web of lines. Finally, I set off to find the "maximum" angle , but quickly realized that my GPS doesn't dynamically update routes in the field So it was over to plan B; "walking the line" Ahh Binthair, why didn't you mention that a compass and protractor would be handy  BTW - Don't fall down the well at posted coordinates.
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| November 19, 2005 by Mattawa (1068 found) Well I guess I just proved Meadow Muffin wrong. I am logging this find before next summer, although it was getting a bit uncomfortable being reminded continually to get on with my logs. This one gave us a merry romp, all right! Many thanks to the math geeks in the posse for helping with this one or I would be still be out there somewhere sitting under a tree. As luck would have it, I got wet crossing the last water obstacle of the morning. But then, that's why I'm out there... TNLN TFTC
[view this log] | November 19, 2005 by danceswithwords (616 found) Found this with the Saturday Morning Breakfast Club (A.K.A. The GeoMob). My part in all this was as offical animal spotter and tree identifier. I left the math, square counting and reconnoitring to the expert.At this point I had earned my breakfast. I had one big ole porcupine at the top of a unknow species of tree. Though I'd guess it to be poplar. It was at this point in the morning that I notice two things. A: My feet where beginning to feel a bit wet. B: When this morning was over I was going to be a very tired man who sits on his ass the other 6 days a week. At the end of this cache I said to myself... hmmm if we had only gone in the other direction. I guess that by this cache we had walked (three previous caches included) somewhere between 15 and 20 Kilometers. And I can say that without a doubt that my feet where soaked. Now if I had only known that I was going to spend another 2 hours shopping in Costco with my lovely wife. I might have taken a nap under one of those many pine trees. [This entry was edited by danceswithwords on Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 8:18:45 PM.]
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| November 19, 2005 by mudlark (1735 found) Fouth of the day for the Sat Morning Caching Club. (Not a bad day since this made it four for four!) I was pleased to help out with the searching for tags and keeping track of our distance from C, since my assistance with math would not have been a good thing. The distance measuring duties had a humourous touch to them, as pointed out by m+mm. There I was, in the lead with the GeoMob trusting that I had a schmick about where I was going, despite the fact I had been bemoaning my wonky electronic compass all morning. A trusting lot for sure. It all worked out in the end though, and I didn't end up trussed up in a tree. TNLNSL. TFTC!
[view this log] | November 19, 2005 by Greely Grizzly (1722 found) This is another one of those caches where I guard the Mathematicians and hope they are right. Long hike, lots of bush, couple of surprises along the way. As Gomer Pyle would say Surprise!Surprise!Surprise!. $#%?&(@#!!. And then we went and found it! Again thanks to Mm&m and Bluelamb for the calculations.TNLNSL. Thanks Binthair. (I think?).
[view this log] | November 19, 2005 by meadow_muffin (1304 found) Found it today with the Mudlark Breakfast Club. Not much to add from the previous logs except TFTC. Maeeawa was there so you might see his log sometime next summer.A few more photos.
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| November 19, 2005 by bluelamb03 (6279 found) Got it at 1220 hrs with Mudlark's Saturday Morning Caching Club! (m&mm, geoSquid, Mattawa, Greely Grizzly, Dances with Words, Meadow Muffin, Mudlark and I attending). Now I know what the "surprise" is - the way you feel when you actually find the cache! As m&mm said we had a plan, though I wasn't so confident that it would work! We found all the redirects without pain, or too much bushwhacking, and then we found point P - and were suitably surprised! We found the cache shortly afterward, after alternating between curses and chuckles, and it was very wet. I found it sitting upright on the ground. After dumping the water out I rescued "Bob the Dam Builder" TB and took a soggy stuffed bunny and bungee cord that were hogging all the space. I've left a Home Depot pin and a 'Bluelamb'. We re-bagged the contents as well as we could, but they're in poor condition! Cheers,Bluelamb03
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| November 19, 2005 by m&mm (184 found) *GASP*, the surprise of it all. Cache #75 for me! Cache 4 of 4 today for Mudlark's morning assemblage. I think the biggest surprise was finding it at all (I know we were all surprised). Another cache which isn't for those people allergic to crossing streams. Unfortunately, when we started this one, all we had was the outline of a plan, once you get to WP2 and get the coords, you really hope the plan comes together. Turned out to be a rather efficient plan at that (still quite the hike though). The cache was found, but quite soaked. Poor Bob (travel bug), he was rusty, waterlogged and I believe, slimy. We emptied the container, double-bagged everything (the log book was dry at least). TNLNSL TFTH M
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| November 19, 2005 by geoSquid (470 found) #187Ok, I was surprised. Well, not really :) With the Saturday Morning Geomob, this one turned out to be somewhat straightforward since we could assign individual tracking duties to measure and monitor our progress. Enjoyed the sweet aroma of success permeating the area. Cache container in good shape, but contents were soaked. I'm sure someone will probably discuss that better than I can. Had fun! TNLNSL. Thanks [This entry was edited by geoSquid on Saturday, November 19, 2005 at 11:41:52 AM.]
[view this log] | May 30, 2005 by r2g2 (64 found) What a great midlife crisis cache. Weakling no more The sad part was the amount of water inside cache container. I drained what I could but most items were soaked. Left a bungee cord, good for supporting jaw dropping in surprise. Took an extendable magnet. Thanks for another challenge! [This entry was edited by r2g2 on Monday, May 30, 2005 at 3:45:51 PM.]
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| September 29, 2004 by The Burrow (3429 found) #239 Our first find of the day at 17:24 on September 29, 2004. Did I say something about taking a couple of weeks off caching? I must have meant a couple of hours. Unlike some people, I don't have golfing to pull me away. This was another of those caches that as you're getting close, you can say with certainty, "yup, that meets the criteria for a Binthair cache, it has to be there". Andsure enough, it was. On the way out, we came upon the remains of a young calf. yuchh. This has certainly been a fun cache, and we're looking forward to the next one. Took a ball, left a dinosaur, and the "Bob the Dam Builder" TB. Thanks for another great outing. The Burrow.
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| September 28, 2004 by binthair (615 found) Yeah, chimo, I really missed going to the GAG'Em5 event. Missed meeting lots of newer cachers .. but escaped their revenge ... LOL!Soon as the snow hides the golf balls, I'll be BACK!!! And, no I wasn't pulling a 'Wilson' .... a 'Titleist' maybe . Cheers!
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| September 27, 2004 by chimo (166 found) Binthair, we were beginning to worry. Not a peep for quite some time (even missed GAG5). It's good to see you may be giving those poor golf clubs a short rest. Thought it may be a "Wilson" (from the movie Castaway) situation. Cheers,Chimo
[view this log] | September 27, 2004 by The Burrow (3429 found) Riiight. Just as I decide to take a week or two off caching, someone decides to turn up the heat. My last comment sticks. The Burrow.
[view this log] | September 27, 2004 by binthair (615 found)
I expect a successful find from The Burrow ... any moment now. Especially now that Roswell.fr has beaten a path through the wilderness and was successful. I heartily agree with The Burrow that about half the fun in the game is the interesting logs. Looking forward to The Burrow's find ... if he survives!!!!  Cheers! binthair
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| September 25, 2004 by The Burrow (3429 found) Okay, okay, so We don't always keep a running commentary going on our adventures. We are trying to get better on that. We are learning that the logs can be as much fun as the caches. At least it's good to know we're not alone in taking more than one visit to complete this one. By the way, what is this trig thing everyone's talking about? This adventure started when we completed the Harder Than Hull cache, and Binthair suggested "Why don't you try Maximum Surprise?" So the next thing you know, we're trying Maximum Surprse. We came in and found the first waypoint with no problem except the mosquitoes. By the time we got to the second waypoint, I think we were getting low on blood, because I was hearing a constant buzzing in my ears, so we decided to come back another day. Today we were there bright and early (by some standards) at 8:30 a.m. We passed by the penguin guarding the access point, and made our way down a delightfully clear path with no bugs. We didn't see Roswell.fr (not up yet?), but we did see a no horses sign clearly posted well before coming up on all the droppings. Went down to the creek/pond/water hole thing, took some pictures (which will be posted once developed, since no digital camera yet), got ourselves a maximum surprise, and decided to finish this another day. I think we're going to upgrade Binthair's standing from "evil" to "sadistic". We'll be back. The Burrow.[This entry was edited by The Burrow on Saturday, September 25, 2004 at 7:07:52 PM.]
[view this log] | September 25, 2004 by Roswell.fr (581 found) Got it! On my 3rd visit, which I wouldn't call 3rd try because I did a part of the whole adventure each time, I found the cache bang on my estimated coordinates. It was lying on the ground but not damaged so I put it in a nearby winter-friendly spot.I enjoyed every second of the Quest (yes, with an uppercase Q) and have seen many interesting things on my way: - a young woman dressed in white lying in the grass at WP1 on my 2nd visit - a plastic penguin on the rocks in the creek near the parking - many proofs that "poop and scoop" does not apply to horses - yellow, green and blue markers on the trail, but none with "MAXIMUM SURPRISE AHEAD"  I had lots of fun finding this cache and I know now that I'm more a trespasser and a bushwacker than a pathfinder . My third visit today was nothing more than a nice walk in the woods, I knew the trail, I found an easy way to cross the natural obstacle even if it looked impassable at some point and I found the cache! I encourage everybody (well, every bushwacker) to try to find this cache. Thanks a lot binthair!
[view this log] | August 28, 2004 by Roswell.fr (581 found) I'm getting closer! I've computed the coordinates of the point with the larger angle using my GPSr only and tried to reach it in a clever way, which appeared to be as bad as the way I reached WP2 last week. It looks like I'm more a bushwacker than a pathfinder [;-)] and one with a wet foot (yes, me too). I haven't found the cache yet, but had a MAXIMUM SURPRISE and found a trail which should help me next time (I ran out of time). Binthair, feel free to email me to know the details...
[view this log] | August 22, 2004 by Roswell.fr (581 found) I found WP1 today and reached WP2 using a non-optimal route (I've tried to be too smart to go around a natural obstacle which was easy to cross...). Then I came back to WP1 and tried to find WP1 of Tick's Torture for the second time with no luck. I'll think about the geometry problem and play with my GPS at home and come back sometime later.
[view this log] | August 15, 2004 by binthair (615 found)
  Wow! That's quite a story, smirlespies! Congratulations on getting to Waypoint 2 under those conditions! Maybe I should include another warning to advise not doing this cache during a tornado alert. If you ever got caught up in by one, that would be a MAXIMUM SURPRISE! Glad you survived the creek episode ... it is recommended to avoid it completely  After all your troubles, I am surprised that there was no cursing! I do appreciate your kind parting words! Keep at it ... you will be surprised!Cheers! binthair
[view this log] | August 14, 2004 by smirlespies (71 found) Chapter 1: A Solution - Thurs. 5 Aug. Noticed this interesting geometry puzzle and figured I'd give it a try. A couple hours of doodling while sipping a bit of wine to loosen the muscles after dinner and I thought I had a strategy. Walking, bearings, headings, arithmetic - no calc. But we were away for the weekend so I had to put off the real test for a few days.Chapter 2: Chest High Soaker - Tues. 10 Aug. Planned to do this cache after work. OK, so there were ominous dark clouds in the sky when I was ready to leave work, and the forecast included severe thunderstorm warnings AND tornado warnings for Ottawa, but my read of the radar said the storm would just skirt the area, so I proceeded as planned to the cache area - I was anxious to give this a shot. When I reached WP1, I could hear thunder but it seemed quite distant; the light sprinkle seemed refreshing. As I got closer to WP2 however, I was beginning to think I had made a mistake in my timing and felt a bit vulnerable as I started to see frequent lightening in the distant storm front that seemed headed my way. Getting very close to WP2 I decided I needed to make a run for it once I recorded the coords for ABC. The big drops started as I began heading back the way I came - or so I thought. The terrain in this area is not straight forward, so I tried to follow my path back knowing the footing was good on the way in. There was a bit of naked fear in my step now as I felt quite vulnerable to lightening given the terrain. As I leapt back across the small feeder stream I had crossed on the way in, I found myself chest deep in the Ramsey creek. I had obviously not followed my complete path but probably some deer track or something. (I have to say, by way of excuse, besides the storm, that the dense vegetation here completely blocks a clear view of the ground, or creek.) Needless to say, I was Maximally Surprised! My first reaction was to laugh and think that I had finally given my GPSr a real christening. But I immediately pulled myself out and continued, slopping, squishing and dripping back to the car, with each clap of thunder giving me a bit of kick. The rain entered the fire hose stage as I got behind the wheel wet but relieved. Chapter 3: A Correct Solution? - Sat. 14 Aug. I wasn't able to return to finish what I had started until today, but I had more time to review my strategy and realized my original solution was incorrect(!), although not by much, so maybe it was a good thing my first attempt was cut short. However, although it was a beautiful day today, and the required hikes were challenging but enjoyable, I came up empty. As I approached point C, ready for the kill, my GPSr readings went haywire - I could not get a reliable reading due to the surroundings. I made an attempt at finding point P by estimating a heading for P from the closest point to C that I could get a reliable reading, which brought me to an small patch of white pines, including several with double trunks but no cache in sight. I feel I was very close, but by this time I was starting to run out the clock before the rest of the 'spies' sent out a search party, so I had to retreat. Chapter 4: too be continued. I have a fair bit invested in this cache now so I will have to come back some time but perhaps I will wait for a turn of season first... binthair - this cache has been quite an adventure so far...thanks for setting it up!
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| July 20, 2004 by binthair (615 found)
Congratulations to =BB= on finding the cache ... the hard way ... LOL! To do it that way required 2 trips; one to get the coords and another for the cache *grin*. Somehow, I knew there would be some hard-headed math cachers out there ... hehehe! There ARE much simpler ways to find the cache ... including my recommended GPSr method. Oh well, whatever turns you on ... enjoying the challenge is the main thing.Cheers! binthair
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| July 20, 2004 by =BB= (287 found) [On July 19th at approximately noon I set out to find the data (points A,B,C) so that I could start the math to find the cache. After retrieving the information, I made my way back home where I had some work to be done. By the time 9:07pm rolled around, I finally had a chance to sit down to do the calculus to find the exact lengths of line-segment AC and BC. Almost an hour later, I finally had the second derivative of the nasty arccos function in conjunction with its conjugate. I forgot how much I really enjoy calculus (no, honestly! It is my strongest subject @ Carleton). So with the 2nd derivative calculated, I found the lengths of AC and BC that maximizes the angle U.At 11:00pm I think to myself - I really can't wait to do this cache so I pack my gear and head out to the final cache location. At somewhere near 12:00am this morning (July 20) I found the exact point where U is a maximum on the circle C - I had calculated to within 8 m of the averaged location. The GPS reception was terrible as it had just rained and I was seeing a lot of signal bounce, so I'd like to think that my calculations were actually accurate down to 1 m :). Binthair, you will likely enjoy reading my log entry on this one ;) We took: A small toy ambulance + some raspberries along the way We left: A prime-time cigar (cigarillo) to go with your new lighter (shame on us yes, but we thought it fitting) + 2 signature "blue beads" (BB) as Jason joined me for the cache-grab ] Qnza lbh Ovagunve! :) (decrypt)
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| July 19, 2004 by geoSquid (470 found) I have devised a method to do this quite simply, using only a GPSr and a lot of fiddling with it, no calculus, no algebra. My time in the near future is limited however, so it will be a while before I get to test this theory out.It is, of course, possible to do this one with a map and compass and less than a 1.3 km walk over type 3 terrain if that sort of thing floats one's boat.
[view this log] | July 19, 2004 by binthair (615 found)
Yikes!! Well, good luck to =BB= on his calculus exercise. I hope he doesn't get lost in that jungle of derivatives ... LOL!Really folks, the easiest way is simply to get out there, just you and your GPSr. No math required!! Let's see some more successful logs! Cheers! binthair
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| July 19, 2004 by =BB= (287 found) Just came back from WP2 with the data.I decided that since it has been so long since I have used calculus, I will attempt to find the exact waypoint P using more advanced (mathematical) methods. It is 9:07pm and I am currently finding derivatives. :)
[view this log] | July 19, 2004 by binthair (615 found)
Golly! I guess the cache was set up OK after all! ... heh,heh!Congratulations to julesd and mlord on the teamwork and the first find! Hope you guys enjoyed the jungle exercise ... LOL! Shame on you julesd ... trying to do this the hard way ... trig approximations indeed!!! Shame on you mlord ... but thanks for another lighter for my collection ... LOL! Not at all surprised to see a survivor of TT finding this one *wink*! Cheers! binthair
[view this log] | July 19, 2004 by julesd (425 found) Thought about how to solve the puzzle while in bed last night. Got up this morning and set out for it. Wasn't surprised to run into mlord near WP1. We split up and took two different paths only to converge on WP2. We split up again but eventually teamed up for the final cache search. Found the cache shortly before noon, very close to my calculated coordinates. TNLNSL. Managed to do the whole thing without getting my feet wet, but did get quite a few scratches on my legs from the bushwhacking. Took about 2 hours from the car to the cache and back.Thanks for another fun cache! Jules. P.S.: Oops, forgot to take any pictures!
[view this log] | July 19, 2004 by mlord (1172 found) Found it! Met Julesd in the parking area as he returned from the first waypoint, met him again at the second waypoint. I was navigating by GPSr only, he was doing some trig approximations, and we pretty much seemed to meet time after time on this cache, so we teamed up for a final minimal walk together!Fortunately, the trails were known to me from doing TT recently, but the grass and bushes sure have grown up since then -- it's a jungle out there! I think my total time, car to car, was around 100 minutes or so, about half of it on my bike. Took a Yo-Yo (how appropriate indeed), and left a nice piezo-electric lighter for binthair -- it's not a kids cache anyway. Cheers! (originally posted by cellphone at 11:49-EST) [This entry was edited by mlord on Monday, July 19, 2004 at 10:12:36 AM.]
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