RacerJim: Time to retire this cache as weeds have become an issue with the explosion of undergrowth since the derecho took out so many trees . Cache was only 50 ft or so from main trail ,but if you came at it from smaller trails I can see where it could be a problem . With so many new caches being micros, I hate to put this old ammo can on the bench . Maybe this Phoenix will arise again some day . Happy trails !