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Unknown CacheMath Whiz

A cache by allagash     Hidden: 2/16/2008

Size: Size: Small (Small)     Difficulty: 4 out of 5     Terrain: 2 out of 5 (1 is easiest, 5 is hardest)


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N/S ? ??.??? W/E ??? ??.??? 
In Arizona, United States

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Somewhere on State Trust Land in Apache Junction there is a cache waiting to be located.  It should be fairly close to US 60 over basically flat terrain.  It is NOT in the Silly Mountain parking area as the above coordinates suggest.

Here’s the story:  An old college friend stopped by for a visit while traveling across the country.  Naturally I steered the talk to Geocaching and he seemed quite interested.  He told me he knew a little about a map and compass, and enjoyed walking in the desert.  I showed him how a GPSr worked, and then guided him to a couple of caches.  He thought it was fun and asked if he could hide a cache for me to find before he left.  It sounded like a good idea to me, so we dug out a small metal box, I loaned him my GPSr, and off he went.  He said he wanted to explore the State Trust Land near his RV park, and would let me know the next day where he had hidden the cache.  I cautioned him about taking accurate coordinate readings, and even told him about the good common practice of approaching the waypoint from several directions just to verify the accuracy of his figures.

Now, I hadn't seen this guy since college (a LONG time ago).  He was a bit spacey even back then.  The rest of us never did understand what he was talking about, but we admired him and called him the "Math Whiz".  He was the kind of guy that carried a 2 foot long slide rule in a holster - he could calculate a cotangent to 8 decimal places.  He could do square roots on paper with an ink pen.  He knew the derivative of pi r squared.  He knew... well, you get the idea.

I was a little worried when I had not heard from him the next morning, but when I looked on my porch I found my GPSr and the following note:

Sorry, but I thought I’d get an early start towards Yuma.  The desert was beautiful, the weather superb, and I found a neat spot for your cache.  I remembered to take four readings just like you said.  I converted all compass headings to true, except maybe #3 – I don’t know about that one.

(1)From N33º 22.589’ W111º 29.329’ the cache is 201º true
(2)From N33º 22.706’ W111º 31.724’ the cache is 111º true
(3)From N33º 21.051’ W111º 28.620’ the cache is 320º either magnetic or true
(4)From N33º 21.712’ W111º 28.620, I forgot to write down the heading.

It should be very easy.  Oh yeah, I also remember that it’s exactly one mile from #4 to the cache.  Have fun and I’ll see you next year, I hope.  Hide a cache for me.


When I first read this over, I thought: Great, you dummy, you forgot to write down the coordinates of the cache.  I’ll never be able to find it.  And I can't even contact him - my voice mail must be getting caught in his spam filter.  A cache container gone to waste.  Oh well.

But after a little while of pondering, I thought of at least a couple of ways to look for the cache.  Perhaps you can help me out.  This is one adventure that definitely requires pre-planning.  Good maps are a plus.  This website could be a help.  Or maybe this one.  Or maybe neither.  And a compass if you get really desperate.  And desert boots.

Hope you can find it for me.

PS:  If you do find it, please do not give away your secret(s) in your log.  More of a challenge for others, and more satisfaction when they find it on their own.

PPS:  Congratulations to DoubleBogie6, azdiablos and Team AZFastFeet for finding the cache on their own.  The remainder of the caching community seems to have leaked from a somewhat lower level in the gene pool.  The cache has been dumbed down a bit and there are now three helps available for those of less nimble wit, or for those that feel somewhat mathematically challenged:
(1) You can ask for help.
(2) You can plead for more assistance than anyone should need, and finally
(3) You can grovel on the ground while begging for a giveaway clue that would lead a blind idiot to the cache.

To use the first help, log a DNF (might actually be a Did Not Try if you are at that stage) and ask for help.
To use the second help, (after failing to comprehend the obvious clue provided in the first help) log another DNF and explain how your life's experiences have failed to prepare you for such a simple challenge.
To use the third help, abandon all pretense of intelligence, subject yourself to abject humiliation, resign yourself to the position of Also Ran, log yet another DNF and prepare yourself for the head-banging "DUH" answer.

 

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Decryption Key

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N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z

(letter above equals below, and vice versa)

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Cnex npebff HF 60 sebz Onfun'f naq pyvzo bire gur tngr - ab zbgbe iruvpyrf nyybjrq. N tbbq ebnq jvyy gnxr lbh dhvgr pybfr gb gur pnpur. N ovplpyr jbhyq fcrrq guvat hc.(Decrypted Hints)

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 February 6 by MtnShasta (3560 found)
Solved this one yesterday and made the .82mile hike in to GZ today. My method had me to within 7feet of the cache. Not bad. Thanks for the fun challenge.

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 February 1 by fuzzhead65 (154 found)
Snowbirds from Iowa walked right up to the cache. Math Whiz's co-ordinates were right on the money. Enjoyed the calculation and the find. TFTC SL

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 January 9 by Corfman Clan (2709 found)
1147 09 Jan 2010
I was able to ride my bicycle within feet of the cache. I went down the road for awhile and then took a cattle trail that went right by. How lucky is that! Probably about as lucky as correctly calculating the coordinates. Thanks Allagash, for this cache!

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 March 8, 2009 by sole seeker (7912 found)
I first did the math and plotted it out, then used an online tool to verify my result which gave me a bit more accurate coordinates. No problem finding it. At the site, my gps showed my coord's were only 8m off. Fun puzzle! tfth

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 February 9, 2009 by garyhh (2649 found)
Well I can't say I'm a math whiz but I did find it using a method mentioned by a earlier poster which got sharonlh and I to with in 118' feet of the cache. We started working 1/2 circles in opposite directions. After about 20 minutes I set the GPSr at reference point #4 and saw that I was only .96 away so I went the other direction until I hit the 1 mile mark and started searcing the arch at 1 mile and just happened to get to the cache before sharonlh who was only 10 feet away :-). She hates when I do that :-). LNTN SL TFTC

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Current Time: 2/9/2010 7:48:44 PM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada) (3:48 AM GMT)
Last Updated: 2/6/2010 2:38:50 PM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada) (10:38 PM GMT)
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