First to.....drag a kid on a sled to GZ! Advantageous?, not for me. Adventurous would be how I would describe it. I pulled the little one along the way to GZ with the geodog leading the way. Came across a few snowmobiles there and back too. Got to GZ and placed a stick to mark it, then began my loooooong search. I could see the marks from the previous cachers attempts at going vertical. I walked around a lot and even went up to where I was comfortable with all my winter gear on. Of course the problem arised that usually does after awhile in one place with a 3 yr. old, she was ready to go. I guess I'll have to wait for the cat lovers to find it. My dog also found what looked to be a deer carcass near the creek.