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QUADRANTS - A sense of Albuquerque - NE Urban

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Hidden : 9/1/2003
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Continuing on the "QUADRANTS" quest!

Step three (with 2 stages) in the NE "QUADRANTS" series. If you haven't conquered "QUADRANTS - A place to start" and QUADRANTS - A Sense of Albuquerque - NE Suburban" yet, please do so before starting this one - they will help you to find your way!


Please see the write-up of Methods and Generalities for the "QUADRANTS" series in the prior step (2) - "QUADRANTS - A sense of Albuquerque - Suburban", if you don't know what this is all about or why we did this!


Each of these "Urban" QUADRANT caches is located in an area that will give you minimal privacy for what you'll have to do to solve them - so be sneaky, as we're sure all good geocachers are!


QUADRANTS - "A Sense of Albuquerque" - NE Urban - SMELL


Have you seen enough of Albuquerque yet? We didn't think so. So we're going to provide you with the means to see much more of it! We're going to save you money (for parking) and were going to make you think about public transportation in Albuquerque (Yikes)! We're going to do something that few Albuquerqueans do (but probably should)! This step of the "QUADRANTS" series is going to put you and your fellow geocachers on the bus! If your junior cachers are anything like ours, they're going to love this part!


"A sense of Albuquerque - NE Urban" cache is NOT where the above coordinates point to!

To solve this cache you'll need:

1. A working GPSr unit (to get you to a place where you can safely park your car, at least).

2. Coordinates for the actual cache location - as indicated by solving the problems below at Stage I.

3. A Pen/Pencil and a "take no B.S." attitude while walking in, around and underground at downtown.

4. A bus token or $1.00 for adults & $0.35 for kids - EXACT CHANGE/EACH WAY.

5. A current bus schedule - which you can download from the link below.

6. Your LOG sheet to keep track of all the numbers you'll need for each QUADRANT.

7. Some time and some good timing - unless you want to be stuck downtown.

8. A short step ladder if you are not six feet tall.

9. A sense of Urban Adventure!

The above coordinates will put you at the "end of the line" for the appropriate bus (5) that will take you downtown to the other "end of the line" - Park at the above coordinates.

First though, a disclaimer:




To solve the location of "A sense of Albuquerque - NE Urban - SMELL", you will need to figure out the following problems:

1. At the prior Cache (step 2) you hopefully took a bearing from the snack box to the Actual cache location as instructed. Use that bearing, save the 1st number of it and replace the rest of the numbers with the numbers listed at "A" under the lid of that actual cache container. This number is the bearing (in true north format) to THIS Cache from step 2's actual cache location.

2. At the prior cache (step 2) you found a number listed at "B" - This number is the distance (in Miles), as the crow flies, to THIS Cache from step 2's actual cache location.

3. At the prior cache (step 2) you found a number listed at "C" - This number should be used to refine your latitude calculation and make it exact. IE, this number is the final 3 numbers after the decimal point when using the format NXXd XX.____m.

4. At the prior cache (step 2) you found a number listed at "D" - This number should be used to refine your longitude calculation and make it exact. IE, this number is the final 3 numbers after the decimal point when using the format WXXd XX.____m.

5. PLEASE! Write down the BEARING that you've calculated above (in item #1) for future use at the next step of this quadrant!

Based on this information (and possibly a good short term memory) you will know with relative accuracy where this cache is. Now all you have to do is get there - And "getting there" in a unique way, is the whole point of this step!


A brief guide for the bus ride!

To Download the current Bus Schedules, go here for the Albuquerque Transit web page.

Upon parking at the main listed coordinates for this cache, you may want to enjoy all of the prairie dogs that are in the area. But time it so you won't have to wait too long for the bus, there's not much to do here but wait.

The bus route is fairly direct, so here are some things to look out for while you're enjoying the ride and letting someone else worry about traffic:

1. You will be traveling the second main east-west city street in Albuquerque - Montgomery Blvd.,

2. Enjoy the irony of driving passed the New Mexico AAA headquarters (on the north) office while sitting on the bus,

3. Just prior to San Mateo, wave a big wave to the Internal Revenue Service building (on the south) send them your love.

4. Realize that at San Mateo and Montgomery, you are crossing the busiest city intersection in New Mexico.

5. A bit further you will turn south onto Carlisle Blvd. Now you can wave at the local ABC TV affiliate on the NW corner of Comanche and see their SKY 7 helicopter sitting outside.

6. After crossing Interstate 40 you will enter into one of the older neighborhoods on Carlisle blvd.

7. At Lomas the bus will turn west to take you by the northern edge of the University of New Mexico (on the south), The main regional trauma center (hospital), UNMH (on the north) and the oldest car dealership in New Mexico, Galles Chevrolet at University Blvd. (on the north).

8. You'll now take a short detour under Interstate 25 and drive passed the "new" Albuquerque High school (home of the Bulldogs) - on the north.

9. Continuing west on Mountain road you'll see the main Albuquerque Post office (for those 1040 forms) then you'll head south on 4th street where you'll be entering the downtown area.

10. The bus will then take you on a short tour of Downtown, watch carefully for all of the landmarks which are posted with signs on the streets and are noted on the bus schedule.

11. The end of the line is at the Alvarado transit center. Once here you might want to purchase a bus token to replenish the one you "borrowed" from step 2 in this cache series and possibly pick up 2 new bus schedules (weekday and weekend).

12. Take a walk around the "new" Alvarado transit center and see how well the city planners & architects have re-created the "old" Alvarado hotel site!

13. You've now accomplished something that most locals have NEVER done, you've ridden the bus from start to finish! Please watch the time and plan for your timely return to the East end of Montgomery Blvd. - via the same bus route - reversed!


In searching for this cache, you might consider a few things:

1. You really won't need to use your GPSr unit for this hunt if you have conquered step 1: "QUADRANTS - A place to start". But you'll need it to locate the parking area!

2. The cache container is located 10' due north of the NE marker that you located in step 1 of "QUADRANTS" - no, we're not going to tell you what color that marker is or where it is located - you should know that already.

3. The cache container is a Camo'd Altoids tin.

4. The cache is near an area that is frequented by vagrants, do NOT attempt this during lunch time or after dark unless you can talk your way out of a jam!

5. Plan your trip to coincide with the arrival of Amtrak's Southwest Chief (around 4:45pm - daily) heading to Los Angeles.

6. The cache is hidden along the walkway right above Central. Look at the wall away from the glass artwork. Check the steel and concrete cubbies just over six feet high.

7. This stage (I) is a log only cache - please take nothing and leave nothing but DO enjoy the various odors your nose is giving you.

8. You will find answers in this cache to conquer stage II - write them down or you'll have to come back again!

9. Use your binoculars (you didn't forget them on the bus, did you?) or really good eyesight for stage II when you "see" the need to.

10. Please make sure the cache is returned to the same place and remains well hidden!

11. See directions directly below for the requirements for Stage II of this cache!


Stage II

To get credit for this stage; "The Heart of Albuquerque - NE - Remember Me", you will need to E-mail the answers to the following 2 questions:

1. What color is the "Heart of Albuquerque"?

2. What is the name of the road that put Albuquerque on the national map?

Please don't post the answers on this page - encrypted or not. We'll get back to you as quickly as possible. So that we know you've found BOTH stages of this multi-cache, please do not log your find of stage I (the Micro cache) until you've received a return e-mail acknowledgement of the correct answers for stage II (the above 2 questions)!

That's it! Please write down all the information you've gleaned from your foot visit to "NE Urban.

Upon completion of this multi-stage cache you may move on to:

Because you now have all the pieces of the puzzle to get you there!

Good luck! We hope you'll enjoy the SMELLS of downtown Albuquerque, the car horns and the bus ride home!

Additional Hints (Decrypt)

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Decryption Key


(letter above equals below, and vice versa)



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