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Details for Benchmark: FG1753

N 35° 07.651 W 092° 50.336 (NAD 83)

Altitude: 1051

Coordinates may not be exact. Altitude is VERTCON and location is ADJUSTED. (more info)

Location:
In CONWAY county, AR View Original Datasheet
Designation:
STOUTS POINT
Marker Type:
nail
Setting:
unspecified rock
Stability:
Probably hold position/elevation well.

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Found this while visiting Stout's Point

Found this while visiting Stout's Point

We haven't been geocaching in a long time, but I was up on Stout's Point with many photographer friends and stumbled (no, not really - that could have been disastrous) upon this survey marker. Yay me! What a gorgeous day exploring Petit Jean - I must return with the rest of FMFourStar! ****

[Photos:]
photoLooks Like a Fried Egg

Found in good shape on a beautiful day site seeing and caching.

Spotted the Marker and RM2 on a very cold morning at Stout's Point.

Found with my folks and my oldest son :) Thanks dad, for pointing it out to me!

[Photos:]
photoStouts Point

Found while my daddy and I were out with Grandma & Pop-pop

The station and both reference marks were found as described in the NGS Datasheet. Sadly, the building where the azimuth disk was located seems to have disappeared sometime between 1940 and 1967, likely taking the disk with it.

http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/ds_mark.prl?PidBox=FG1753

You can see that the disk was replaced with the current washer and nail marker sometime between 1967 and 1989. The 1989 survey determined that the current nail is in the "approximate same location as the original disk" and that they measured the nail to be 12mm closer to RM1 and 5mm farther from RM2 than the values in the original description.

Everyone please note that this is a triangulation station, and the mark in question is the nail and washer and NOT either of the reference marks denoted RM1 and RM2. If it's a three inch disk with an arrow on it, it's NOT the benchmark.

[Photos:]
photoMarker
Stout's Point Marker. This is the new nail and washer that replaced the original disk.
photoMarker - Location view
The Stout's Point marker in place out on the point.
photoReference Mark 1
photoReference Mark 2
photoRM2 Location view
RM 2 in place in the middle of the boardwalk

this benchmark has been replaced
posting new picture

[Photos:]
photonew benchmark
old rplaced with this

Found this bench mark today.

I found this benchmark at Stout's point today...It is not everyday you have to leap to get to a benchmark. I had a nimble student go and take the picture. Coon&Bud

[Photos:]
photoStout's Point benchmark

found it as reference mark #1

Driving back from Conway to Fort Smith, we detoured over Petit Jean Mountain to do some caching. Visiting at Stout's Point, I stepped right out on this one and thusly claim it for my own, in the name of God and the Great State of Arkansas.

[Photos:]
photoStout's Point Geologic Marker
Birds like to stand on this very spot.

Found as part of a two day benchmarking and caching run with Ashallond. This was pretty awesome.

Found as part of a two day benchmarking and caching run.

Was starting our day of hiking and caching on Petit Jean. Turtle reminded me to get the nearby benchmarks.

I wasn't looking for it but I found it anyway. It would be a safe bet to say that many people see this each day.

Found this while caching up on Petit Jean. Also found Redirect #2 but didn't realize there was another. Was doing this from iPhone and coverage was iffy today.

Was in the area and thought maybe I'd spot a benchmark. Sure enough, spotted reference marker 2 and followed the arrow to the benchmark.

Found while checking out the scenary. First one for me to find.

Found this one by accident while geocaching. Also stumbled on the reference marker #2.

[Photos:]
photoReference Marker 2

Found one of the redirects by accident with LizzyBug while posing for a picture. Afterwards. I managed to locate the actual survey point nail.

Found the nail and both redirects #1 & #2. Was up on Petit Jean doing a little caching when I stumbled upon these. I thought bonus!

Found on our trip to Arkansas as part of Project "We've Never Been There Before".

[Photos:]
photoStout's Point Benchmark (Redirect)

Found as described, the listed coordinates are good. Found two redirectors as well.

[Photos:]
photoStouts Point
photoRedirector 1
photoRedirector 2

Found

I found this by accident. I had taken some friend from out of state up to Petit Jean and this thing jumped right out at me.

Found this one on accident while hunting "Stout's Point" cache. Very cool!

Actually found this one by accident. I was standing there enjoying the incredible view. I looked down to see where I was stepping (its not really a place you want to fall down) and there it was.

Found 2 BMs and the nail. Have been here before I started geocaching and never noticed.

This is our first benchmark to log, and we found it by accident! I looked down and there it was.

Found all 3 marks. I planned on searching for the azimuth but ran out of time.

[Photos:]
photoStouts Point nail
photoStouts Point nail background
photoStouts Point RM 1
photoStouts Point RM 1 background
photoStouts Point RM 2
photoStouts Point RM 2 background

Sakeman and Snake Charmer stoped by this one while on a motorcycle ride with Bark Jockey.

I happened to notice this guy while out enjoying the view with my wife.

Found. Also watched barge traveling downstream.

Found it. Been here many times before. Love this park.

Our first benchmark to log! Found this one on Thanksgiving Day after finding the Stout's Point cache nearby. Great Views!

[Photos:]
photoBenchmark overlooking the Arkansas River
photoBarge going down the Arkansas River

Easily found

Easily spotted and obvious. Also found two reference disks nearby. The nail has obviously replace a disk that had been removed. A great river valley view from this point and a lot of history.

I found the Station Mark as well as the two Reference marks. I recorded the following coordinates for the Reference marks. Reference Mark 1; 35 07.648 092 250.343.
Reference Mark 2; 35 07.656 092 50.346. Someone has been trying to pry Reference Mark 2 out of it's mount with a screwdriver type of tool. I tried to find the Azimuth but the vegetation drove me back. I would like to try to find it after frost. A metal detector would probably come in handy as the mark may be covered with moss.

The overlook has changed drastically since I was here the last time, many years ago. I remember the orig. mark back then but today I found the nail set by the COE as a replacement for the actual TRI-Station and one AZ. mark in good condition.

Only found the nail/benchmark replacement as we took in the magnificent views from the point.
Hotdogs Off Trail - Bonnie, Jeff, Madison & Murray from Wisconsin

found this while out caching. found everything but the azmouth.Will go back and find it at a later date.

[Photos:]
photoStout Point ref #1
photoStout Point ref #1
photoWhat a view from Stout point ref#1
photoStout Point ref #2
photoPetit Jean's Grave Site
photoAbout Petit Jean
photoThe nail head that replaced Stout Point BM

Found Triangulation Station as described. Original mark for Stouts Point 1940 has been replaced with a nail and C of E USA Survey Cap. Found Reference Mark No. 1 & No. 2 as described. Did not search for Azimuth Mark at this time.

[Photos:]
photoNail w/ Survey Cap (FG1753)
photoFG1753 RM 1
photoFG1753 RM 2

Found while looking for a geocache. Found nail in rock, and the disc that Geezer Veasey post the picture of. It was raining so we took no pictures.

Actual date found was 2/19/2005 but not logged until now. I also found one of the two references points which is pictured.

[Photos:]
photoReference Mark

Found the Cap/Nail while visiting the grave-site/overlook. Has anybody noticed that one of the rocks looks like an Ape's Face? See pics. NOTE: I made an error on the caption for the Ape Rock. It should be right instead of left, in both places. I was half asleep when I posted it.

[This entry was edited by Phantom 491 on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 at 9:42:48 AM.]

[Photos:]
photoGPSr w/ CAP
photoApe Mountain?
If you keep walking out from the Cap/Nail towards the edge, go slightly left and you'll see what looks like a natural place to sit/recline, now look at the rock that's to your left and there it is.

Another great view. Found as described. 2nd of 3 today.

Found with Charlie.

Found the Station and the Ref-1,and a P-K nail..Station as described.

[Photos:]
photoStouts Point and Medals
There are those medals again,the mark is in good shape.
photoStouts Pont ref-1
Reference mark 1 in good shape,did not recover ref-2,or azimuth.
photoPetit Jean's P-K nail
This nail is in a prominent boulder near the Gravesite.
photoStouts Point Overlook
From the Station.

Found a Cap As well as the benchmark that says stouts point. Great View!!

[Photos:]
photoStouts Point Benchmark
The Benchmark
photoThe Cap
The Cap or "nail"

Documented History (by the NGS)

01/01/1940 by CGS (MONUMENTED)
DESCRIBED BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1940 (ANS) THIS STATION IS LOCATED ABOUT 5 MILES WSW OF MORRILTON, ON THE SUMMIT OF A PROMINENT POINT AT THE EXTREME EASTERN END OF PETIT JEAN MOUNTAIN. IT IS LOCALLY KNOWN AS STOUTS POINT. STATION, REFERENCE AND AZIMUTH MARKS ARE STANDARD DISKS WEDGED IN DRILL HOLES IN BOULDERS. STATION MARK IS AT THE EDGE OF BLUFF OVERLOOKING THE ARKANSAS RIVER, AND IS STAMPED STOUTS POINT 1940. REFERENCE MARK NO.1 IS STAMPED STOUTS POINT NO.1 1940, AND IS AT THE S EDGE OF THE BLUFF, ON SAME LEVEL AS THE STATION. REFERENCE NO.2 IS STAMPED STOUTS POINT NO.2 1940, AND IS 19 FEET N OF A 16-INCH OAK TREE AND ABOUT 1 FOOT LOWER THAN THE STATION. THE AZIMUTH MARK IS SET IN A 12- BY 12-FOOT BOULDER WHICH PROJECTS ABOUT 4 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND. MARK IS STAMPED STOUTS POINT 1940. IT IS 20 FEET S OF THE SW CORNER OF AN OLD HOUSE AND 35 FEET S OF THE SE CORNER OF AN OLD HOUSE. TO REACH AZIMUTH MARK FROM STATION, GO W ALONG S EDGE OF BLUFF 0.2 MILE TO AN OLD ABANDONED HOUSE AND AZIMUTH MARK JUST S OF HOUSE, NEAR EDGE OF BLUFF. TO REACH STATION FROM MORRILTON, GO S ON STATE HIGHWAY 9 FOR 5 MILES TO THE JUNCTION OF STATE HIGHWAY 154, TURN RIGHT, (W), ON STATE HIGHWAY 154, AND GO 5.55 MILES TO THE SUMMIT OF PETIT JEAN MOUNTAIN. FROM THIS POINT TURN RIGHT, (E) ON A DIRT ROAD 0.3 MILE TO A FORK, TAKE RIGHT FORK AND GO 0.35 MILE TO EXTREME END OF MOUNTAIN AND STATION.
01/01/1940 by CGS (GOOD)
RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1940 RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION.
01/01/1967 by CGS (GOOD)
RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1967 (LFS) THE STATION MARK, REFERENCE MARKS 1 AND 2 WERE RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. THE AZIMUTH MARK WAS SEARCHED FOR BUT NOT FOUND AND THE OLD HOUSE HAS BEEN DESTROYED. DUE TO TIMBER THE AZIMUTH SITE IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STATION. FOLLOWING IS A NEW AND COMPLETE DESCRIPTION. STATION IS LOCATED ABOUT 5 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF MORRILTON, ON A PROMINENT POINT AT THE EXTREME EASTERN END OF PETIT JEAN MOUNTAIN AND IS 89 FEET EAST OF PETIT JEANS GRAVE. TO REACH FROM THE JUNCTION OF STATE HIGHWAYS 9 AND 154 IN OPPELLO, GO WESTERLY ON STATE HIGHWAY 154 FOR 5.2 MILES TO A SIDE ROAD LEFT AT SIGN ADA VALLEY. CONTINUE AHEAD AND GO WESTERLY ON THE HIGHWAY FOR 2.4 MILES TO THE SUMMIT OF THE MOUNTAIN AND A SIDE ROAD RIGHT AT SIGN PETIT JEANS GRAVE. TURN RIGHT AND GO EASTERLY ON GRADED ROAD FOR 0.3 MILE TO A FORK. TAKE THE RIGHT FORK AND GO EASTERLY ON GRADED ROAD FOR 0.35 MILE TO THE END OF ROAD, PETIT JEANS GRAVE AND STATION. STATION MARK IS A STANDARD DISK, STAMPED STOUTS POINT 1940, CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN A 13 BY 20 FOOT ROCK OUTCROP PROJECTING 4 FEET. IT IS 89 FEET EAST OF PETIT JEANS GRAVE, AND ON THE HIGHEST POINT, OVERLOOKING THE ARKANSAS RIVER. REFERENCE MARK 1 IS A STANDARD DISK, STAMPED STOUTS POINT NO 1 1940, CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN A 10 BY 12 FOOT BOULDER PROJECTING 7 FEET. IT IS 53 FEET SOUTHEAST OF PETIT JEANS GRAVE AND ABOUT THE SAME ELEVATION AS THE STATION. REFERENCE MARK 2 IS A STANDARD DISK, STAMPED STOUTS POINT NO 2 1940, CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN A 11 BY 15 FOOT ROCK OUTCROP PROJECTING 2 FEET. IT IS 95 FEET SOUTHEAST OF THE TURN AROUND AT THE END OF THE ROAD, 72 FEET EAST-NORTHEAST OF PETIT JEANS GRAVE AND ABOUT THE SAME ELEVATION AS THE STATION. NO SUITABLE PLACE FOR AN AZIMUTH MARK.
09/26/1989 by NGS (GOOD)
RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1989 STATION MARK DISK WAS NOT RECOVERED. A NAIL WITH A 2.5 CM WASHER SET IN LEAD 7 CM WIDE WAS FOUND IN THE APPROXIMATE SPOT OF THE ORIGINAL MARK. INDEPENDENT FEET AND METER MEASUREMENTS WERE TAKEN FROM REFERENCE MARKS 1 AND 2 TO WITH A STEEL TAPE TO DETERMINE IF THE NAIL IS IN THE ORIGINAL LOCATION. A DIFFERENCE OF MINUS 12 MM WAS NOTED FROM REFERENCE MARK 1 AND A DIFFERENCE OF 5 MM LONGER WAS NOTED FROM REFERENCE MARK 2. NEW DISTANCES TO REFERENCE MARK 1 ARE 11.177 M (36.670 FT) AND 15.057 M (49.400 FT) TO REFERENCE MARK 2. FROM THESE MEASUREMENTS THIS PARTY CONCLUDED THAT THE NAIL IS IN THE APPROXIMATE SAME POSITION AS THE ORIGINAL DISK. STATION IS LOCATED ABOUT 9 KM (5.6 MI) WEST-SOUTHWEST OF MORRILTON, 8 KM (5.0 MI) WEST-NORTHWEST OF OPPELO, ON PETIT JEAN MOUNTAIN, AT STOUTS POINT WHICH IS ON THE EXTREME EAST END OF THE MOUNTAIN, AT THE GRAVESITE OF PETIT JEAN, IN THE NORTHEAST 1/4 OF SECTION 31, T 6 N, R17 W. OWNERSHIP--STATE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY. TO REACH FROM THE JUNCTION OF STATE HIGHWAYS 9 AND 154 IN OPPELO, GO WEST ON HIGHWAY 154 FOR 11.26 KM (7.00 MI) TO A PAVED ROAD RIGHT AT THE TOP OF A LONG GRADE. TURN SHARP RIGHT, EAST, ON ROAD FOR 0.94 KM (0.58 MI) TO ROAD END AT TURN-AROUND. PACK EAST FOR 58 M (190.3 FT) TO THE STATION. STATION MARK IS A NAIL SURROUNDED BY A CORPS OF ENGINEERS WASHER SET IN LEAD IN A DEPRESSION IN AN IRREGULAR-SHAPED OUTCROP 4 X 5 X 0.5 M (1.6 FT) HIGH. IT IS 58.0 M (190.3 FT) EAST OF THE PAVEMENT END, 18.2 M (59.7 FT) EAST OF A WOODEN SIGN POST---PETIT JEANS GRAVESITE---, AND ABOUT 20 M (65.6 FT) NORTHWEST OF A PROMINENT OUTCROP SEPARATED FROM THE MAIN SECTION OF OUTCROP. NOTE--HORIZON BLOCKAGES ARE 25 DEGREES TO WEST, 30 DEGREES TO NORTH-NORTHWEST, AND 40 DEGREES TO THE NORTH.
04/25/1990 by (GOOD)
RECOVERED 1990 RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION.

Control Text

  • The horizontal coordinates were established by classical geodetic methods and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in September 1999.
  • The NAVD 88 height was computed by applying the VERTCON shift value to the NGVD 29 height (displayed under SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL.)
  • The X, Y, and Z were computed from the position and the ellipsoidal ht.
  • The Laplace correction was computed from DEFLEC99 derived deflections.
  • The ellipsoidal height was determined by GPS observations and is referenced to NAD 83.
  • The geoid height was determined by GEOID99.

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