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Details for Benchmark: PG2112

N 44° 21.947 W 073° 54.184 (NAD 83)

Altitude: 4866

Coordinates may not be exact. Altitude is VERTCON and location is ADJUSTED. (more info)

Location:
In ESSEX county, NY View Original Datasheet
Designation:
WHITEFACE MTN
Marker Type:
NGS Benchmark
Setting:
setting not listed - see description
Stability:

Reference Points

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Found on a beautiful day of hiking. Road was closed, just us hikers on top. Didn't read description ahead of time, missed reference mark 2.

[Photos:]
photoWhiteface Marker
Marker
photoReference Mark 1
Reference Mark 1
photoView from RM 1 to Summit
View from RM 1

Found as described.

[Photos:]
photo

found while visiting Whiteface Mountain.

We had wanted to climb Whiteface for some time now and could never find the right moment - until this day. Even though we left Ottawa early, it still took us 3 1/2 hrs to get to the starting point which meant we started late. With the kids, and icy spots along the way it took four hours to get to the summit - and there were very few other hikers encountered on the way. Conditions were perfect - just little snow and some blowing clouds on the summit. Spectacular views from the top - which we had to ourselves. Cron spotted the benchmark just as we were preparing to head back. We only got halfway down when it got dark - luckily we had our headlamps along with us. But it still took us four hours to get down, since we had to slow down significantly. Although we were tired, it was a great fatigue!

I don't think there's a way to have a bad day on a mountain. We didn't really choose the weather when we'd be there, but we were well served with a mix of sun in the morning, some overcast and a lot of fast-moving clouds in the afternoon with a little bit of snow on the ground.

We made it to the top at about 4pm. That was a challenging hike for the little ones with the rocks and the ice all along the trail. No matter what, they were thrilled to be here and they enjoyed every minute of the day. I'm glad we waited after October 10th when they closed the tourist's road. We had the summit for ourselves!

The walk on the ridge before arriving to the weather station was awesome. The clouds were literally flying around us, coming from below and climbing at high speed over us. We were in a bubble with absolutely no wind. We couldn't ask for more.

We found the marker as we were about to leave (I had almost forgot to look for the benchmarks!). There was just a little bit of snow over it, so I found it in no time.

We had to use the headlamps to finish the hike down, but the kids loved it.

[Photos:]
photoBenchmark and summit sign

Wow, 2 benchmarks on Whiteface. I do have to say that we did not come all the way here from Toronto to log it, but since we found it anyway...

Found after a GREAT climb up Whiteface and Esther!

Found the first triangulation disk at the summit.

Drove the mtn road and hiked the trail to the top. Great weather. We were the last one's off the summit that day and had a nice ride down the elevator with the Ranger. Summit NGS disk is missing, but two triangulation disks still exist pointing to the summit sign. Logged the southern one at N 44o21.949'; W 073o54.185'.

[Photos:]
photoWhiteface Summit Triangulation Mark #2
photoLake Placid, NY from the top of Whiteface Mt
Taken on 6 Aug 2010 with Nikon D40X, Nikor 55-18 zoom lense.

great sight on a perfect day!

Found marker #1 and #2. A good day and a great view.

[Photos:]
photoMarker #1
photo100_0185

[I took a drive up the toll road then hiked the Nature Trail to the top with Cayden on my back. A cold (~50F) and windy day, but the sun broke through and it warmed up once I reached the top.] BM has info sign next to it and makes a great photo spot.

What a sight!

found this little mark while I was up looking blindly for bench marks at the summit..I figured there had to be one up there but had no idea this was the actual mark..hence no photo today.

Finding it very confusing trying to log these but I love the idea!

[Photos:]
photothis one points the way!
photoI'm standing at the other pointer

We are visiting from Houston, TX. We love the temperatures here!

Found with Fink007 and GeoDog007 on a great, clear day. We found the two reference marks and a place where the azimuth mark used to be, which is right next to the current summit sign.

[Photos:]
photoReference mark 1
Fink007, sjfink, and GeoDog007
photoReference mark 2
photoempty azimuth mark
this bolt hole was in the rock at the summit where the two reference lines intersect - could it be from the azimuth mark bolt?

Found this one with sjfink and GeoDog007 on a clear and sunny day. Great views in all directions today!

No nearby geocaches so we found a few BM's atop of the Mountain, beautiful views today...near by lake Placid is a zoo thanks to the Iron Man Comp tomorrow!!! Had a a good time.

rode the bikes up during Americade, really windy up there, made for fun summit photos

Its still there!

Quick locate and record.

quick find on my own 'cuze there were no geocaches here but two more benchmarks filled the void.
Tim

[Photos:]
photono.2.JPG

benchmark present and in good shape

Please see the complete recovery, including text and photos, at my website: [b][url=http://surveymarks.planetzhanna.com/surveymarks/pg2112/]PG2112 - WHITEFACE MTN[/url][/b].

Zhanna

This entry was edited by Zhanna on Friday, 07 December 2012 at 03:16:46 UTC.

Easily found Mark No. 2 on a beautiful clear day during vacation at the family home in the High Peaks. Haven't been to the top of Whiteface in years- forgot what a lovely way to spend the afternoon it is, even with swarms of tourists!

[Photos:]
photoWhiteface Mt. marker

A great day for the trek (via car!) up Whiteface with my parents, SeniorSearchers. While climbing over the rocks on top, we came across this benchmark. Now we can claim a find even though we didn't intend to geocache today.

Of course, it was great to see the article on geocaching inside the NWS office.

DasheyFam
Frederick, MD

[Photos:]
photoThe Benchmark

Found BM right after we found BM 1. 'Not sure which one is the natural summit of Whiteface. Great views - TONS of black flies though - ouch!

hiked twice and snowboard on all winter_

Walked over by thousands, looked at for what they are by few.

[Photos:]
photoWHITEFACE MT. NO 1
photoWHITEFACE MT. NO. 2
photoThe area
Standing directly overtop NO.2
photoLooking towards Chazy Lake.
The northern Adirondacks in mid July.

A favorite view of mine. Amazing.

very foggy no views

This is my first Benchmarks I found...well stumbled on.
I love geocaching and finding this benchmark has peaked by intrest in what other closer to home I could find.It is on the peak of a mountain but gets more foot traffic than most Benchmark sites.This is a must do for anyone!

[Photos:]
photocloseup of mark #1
photoNo 1 mark from 1942
Marks and my GPS

Found the Station Mark. It was last reported found in 1976 by NGS. It is as described, a nail in a 1 lead bolt that is cemented in a drill hole in a large boulder. Also found Reference Marks 1 and 2 as described in good condition.

[Photos:]
photoStation Mark
A nail in a 1" lead bolt that is cemented in a drill hole in a large boulder.
photoView of Station Mark
Station Mark looking West
photoReference Mark 1
photoView of Ref Mark 1
Looking West
photoReference Mark 2
photoView of Ref Mark 2
Looking SE

Second ascent of Whiteface. Fabulous views, as always.

Easy find, good condition, great views

[last edit: 11/8/2002 9:02:14 PM PST]

[Photos:]
photoWhiteface

Easy find due to the fact that you can drive up this mountain!

Documented History (by the NGS)

1/1/1880 by LOCSUR (MONUMENTED)
DESCRIBED BY LOCAL SURVEYOR (INDIVIDUAL OR FIRM) 1880 STATION ESTABLISHED BY ADIRONDACK SURVEYS.
1/1/1942 by CGS (SEE DESCRIPTION)
RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1942 (FBQ) STATION WAS RECOVERED AS DESCRIBED AND THE MARK FOUND IN GOOD CONDITION. AN AZIMUTH MARK AND TWO REFERENCE MARKS WERE ESTABLISHED. NEW DESCRIPTION FOLLOWS-- STATION IS LOCATED ABOUT 6 MILES W OF WILMINGTON ON THE HIGHEST POINT OF WHITEFACE MT. IT IS 42.2 FEET NW OF A WEATHER VANE AND 64.22 FEET WNW OF A WHITE BAROMETER BOX. THE MARK IS A NAIL HEAD IN THE CENTER OF A 1-INCH LEAD BOLT SET IN A DRILL HOLE IN BEDROCK. REFERENCE MARK NO.1 IS E OF THE STATION, 35.5 FEET NE OF THE WEATHER VANE AND 24.5 FEET NW OF THE WHITE BAROMETER BOX. IT IS STAMPED WHITEFACE MT. NO.1 1942 (NOTE 12A). REFERENCE MARK NO.2 IS N OF THE STATION AND 29.7 FEET S OF THE SUMMIT HOUSE. IT IS STAMPED WHITEFACE MT. NO.2 1942 (NOTE 12A). THE AZIMUTH MARK IS NE OF THE STATION ON TOP OF A RIDGE THAT IS NEARLY PARALLEL TO THE WHITEFACE HIGHWAY. IT IS STAMPED WHITEFACE MT. 1942 (NOTE 12A). THE WEATHER VANE IS MOUNTED ON A 1-INCH IRON PIPE AND IS APPROXIMATELY 15 FEET HIGH. THE BAROMETER BOX IS CONSTRUCTED OF WOOD, PAINTED WHITE, AND IS APPROXIMATELY 3 FEET BY 3 FEET BY 4 FEET IN SIZE. IT IS MOUNTED ON 4 IRON LEGS AND THE HEIGHT, OVERALL, IS ABOUT 10 FEET. TO REACH THE STATION FROM THE JUNCTION OF STATE HIGHWAYS 86 AND 431 AT THE W EDGE OF WILMINGTON, GO W ON NO. 431 (WHITEFACE MEMORIAL HIGHWAY) FOR 8.1 MILES TO THE ELEVATOR AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN. IF THE ELEVATOR IS NOT IN USE, CONTINUE AHEAD FOR 0.1 MILE TO A RESTAURANT AND SOUVENIR SHOP. TRAIL TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN AND STATION. IT IS A 10-MINUTE PACK. TO REACH THE AZIMUTH MARK FROM THE STATION, GO NORTHEASTERLY ALONG A RIDGE, FOLLOWING A TELEPHONE LINE, FOR APPROXIMATELY 0.2 MILE.
1/1/1975 by NGS (SEE DESCRIPTION)
RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1975 (RFH) STATION MARK AND BOTH REFERENCE MARKS WERE RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. AZIMUTH MARK WAS NOT SEARCHED FOR AT THIS TIME. THE WEATHER VANE, BAROMETER BOX, AND LOOKOUT TOWER MENTIONED IN THE 1942 DESCRIPTION ARE GONE. THE ORIGINAL SUMMIT HOUSE STILL EXISTS, AND THERE IS NOW A TALLER, AND MORE PROMINENT, OBSERVATION TOWER JUST SOUTH OF THE SUMMIT HOUSE WHICH WAS BUILT ABOUT 1973. STATION IS LOCATED ON A SMALL BEDROCK PINNACLE WHICH IS THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE MOUNTAIN. STATION IS MARKED BY A NAIL IN THE CENTER OF A 1-INCH LEAD PLUG SET IN A DRILL HOLE IN BEDROCK. IT IS 25 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE NEW OBSERVATION TOWER, 10.1 FEET WEST OF THE SOUTH END OF A WOODEN FOOTBRIDGE AND 2.8 FEET EAST-SOUTHEAST OF A SIGN 4867 FT ABOVE SEA LEVEL WHITEFACE MTN. RM NO. 1 IS A STANDARD DISK STAMPED WHITEFACE MT NO 1 1942, CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN BEDROCK LEDGE, 40 FEET SOUTH OF THE NEW OBSERVATION TOWER, 32.2 FEET SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF THE SOUTH END OF THE FOOTBRIDGE, AND 22.4 FEET SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF A PUBLIC TELESCOPE. RM NO. 2 IS A STANDARD DISK STAMPED WHITEFACE MT. NO 2 1942, CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN BEDROCK LEDGE. IT IS 29.7 FEET SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF THE EDGE OF THE SUMMIT HOUSE, 4-1/2 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE NORTH END OF THE FOOTBRIDGE, 3 FEET WEST OF WEST SIDE OF THE BRIDGE, AND ABOUT 4 FEET LOWER THAN STATION MARK. TO REACH STATION FROM THE INTERSECTION OF NY RTES. 86 AND 431 IN WILMINGTON, GO NORTHWEST ON RTE. 431 FOR 3 MILES TO ENTRANCE GATE TO WHITEFACE MTN. CONTINUE FOR 5 MILES TO END OF ROAD ON THE MOUNTAIN. AN ELEVATOR CAN BE TAKEN (A 27-STORY RIDE) EXITING IN THE SUMMIT HOUSE, OR STATION CAN BE REACHED ON FOOT BY FOLLOWING A GOOD TRAIL SOUTHEAST UP RIDGE FROM THE CASTLE AT END OF ROAD. AIRLINE DISTANCE AND DIRECTION FROM NEAREST TOWN 8 MILES NNE OF LAKE PLACID.
1/1/1976 by NGS (GOOD)
RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1976 (JRS) THE STATION MARK, REFERENCE MARKS 1 AND 2 WERE RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. THE AZIMUTH MARK WAS NOT RECOVERED. THE DIRECTIONS TO THE REFERENCE MARKS CHECKED THE OLD DATA. A DIFFERENCE OF 0.21 FEET OR 0.062 METERS IN THE DISTANCE TO REFERENCE MARK 1 WAS NOTED AND A DIFFERENCE OF 0.44 FEET OR 0.132 METERS IN THE DISTANCE TO REFERENCE MARK 2 WAS NOTED, THE DISTANCES TO BOTH REFERENCE MARKS BEING SHORTER THAN THE OLD DATA. FOLLOWING IS A NEW DESCRIPTION. THE STATION IS ABOUT 8 MILES WEST-NORTHWEST OF WILMINGTON AND 7 MILES EAST-NORTHEAST OF BLOOMINGDALE ON THE SUMMIT OF WHITEFACE MOUNTAIN. TO REACH THE STATION FROM THE JUNCTION OF STATE HIGHWAYS 431 AND 86 AT THE WEST EDGE OF WILMINGTON, GO WEST ON HIGHWAY 431 FOR 8.1 MILES TO A TUNNEL LEADING TO AN ELEVATOR. PACK THROUGH THE TUNNEL TO THE ELEVATOR. TAKE THE ELEVATOR TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN AND THE STATION JUST OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. STATION MARK IS A NAIL IN A 1 INCH LEAD BOLT THAT IS CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN A LARGE BOULDER THAT PROJECTS ABOUT 5 FEET. IT IS 3.0 FEET NORTHEAST OF A SIGN WHITEFACE MT 4867 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL REFERENCE MARK 1, STAMPED---WHITEFACE MT NO 1 1942---, CEMENTED IN A LARGE BOULDER THAT PROJECTS ABOUT 3 FEET. IT IS 45.0 FEET EAST OF THE SIGN WHITEFACE MT 4867 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL AND ABOUT 3 FEET LOWER THAN THE STATION. REFERENCE MARK 2, STAMPED---WHITEFACE MT NO 2 1942---, CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN A LARGE BOULDER THAT PROJECTS ABOUT 1-1/2 FEET. IT IS 32.0 FEET NORTHWEST OF THE SIGN WHITEFACE MT 4867 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL AND ABOUT 6 FEET LOWER THAN THE STATION. NO MEASUREMENT MADE BETWEEN THE REFERENCE MARKS DUE TO ROUGH TERRAIN HEIGHT OF LIGHT ABOVE STATION MARK WAS 1.4 METERS.

Control Text

  • The horizontal coordinates were established by classical geodetic methods and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in January 1999.
  • The NAVD 88 height was computed by applying the VERTCON shift value to the NGVD 29 height (displayed under SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL.)
  • The Laplace correction was computed from DEFLEC99 derived deflections.
  • The geoid height was determined by GEOID99.

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