Details for Benchmark: PP2511

N 44° 59.975 W 093° 01.441 (NAD 83)

Altitude: 0

Coordinates may not be exact. Altitude is UNKNOWN and location is ADJUSTED. (more info)

Location:
In RAMSEY county, MN View Original Datasheet
Designation:
RAMSEY COUNTY POOR FARM STACK
Marker Type:
stack
Setting:
setting not listed - see description
Stability:

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Been by here many times.

Found while caching in the area today.

[Photos:]
photoPP2511

We live in the area and were going by the Ramsey County Farm and stop for the Benchmarks.

[Photos:]
photoWater Tower and Smoke Stack.

Thanks to geomatrix for pointing this out on the way past.

Observed on the way to MOA.
Old Professor - Tipton, Mo

Spotted while out caching today.

found as described.

First set of benchmarks - I've seen these many, many times!

Out caching in the area. I have been by this one many times.

Drove right by this one while heading to some nearby caches while I was here. Nice farm.

Never knew this place was called the "Poor Farm" but I grew up around here...learn something new everyday!

Spotted this one while on my way to the Maplewood Community Center.

was driven here by a friendly relative.
My first ever benchmark

Drove by today and remembered to log this. I think about this area a lot since the Ramsey County fair happens just feet from the grave yard, creepy.

thought i should start looking for benchmarks by my caches and the first one i look up has a couple of easy ones. Cool.. been by here a million times almost

Yup...there it was.

[Photos:]
photoHolding its position.

Been by here a million times. finally logging

Finally decided to start finding benchmarks. I drive past this almost everyday, so I thought I'd finally log it. Tally stayed in the car and howled. I took pics, but there seems ot be plenty of pics already.

Remember this one from childhood times spent at the Ramsey County Fair. Also in the area tonight looking for a cache.

Spied these two benchmarks while on a CITO expedition nearby.

Took a pic of the tank, and didn't know the stack was also a benchmark until I logged the tank, but I'll take it as a find anyhow. I didn't know there were really poor farms--I thought it was something our parents made up just so we'd be more thrifty (i.e.-'If I buy you that toy, you'll put us in the poor farm!!!')

[Photos:]
photoPoor farm stack and tank
Two official benchmarks in one shot--the tank to the right, and the smokestack to the left.

Again, many fond memories for working summers for Ramsey County Parks. I used to work in the shop next to the barn.

Always see this one and the Water Tank, it's in my neighborhood.

[Photos:]
photoRamsey County Poor Farm Stack
This is what the Ramsey County Poor Farm Stack looks like.

Documented History (by the NGS)

1/1/1934 by CGS (FIRST OBSERVED)
DESCRIBED BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1934 (CAS) THIS STATION IS THE CENTER OF THE STACK AT THE HEATING PLANT OF THE RAMSEY COUNTY POOR FARM. IT IS A RED BRICK STACK WITH PRONOUNCED CORBEL AT TOP AND AN ENLARGED BAND ABOUT 10 FEET BELOW THE TOP. IT IS ABOUT 135 FEET HIGH AND IS QUITE PROMINENT. IT WAS ERECTED IN 1921. THE STACK IS AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE HEATING PLANT WHICH IS AT THE EAST CENTRAL PART OF THE GROUP OF BUILDINGS AT THE POOR FARM. THE POOR FARM IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF WHITE BEAR AVENUE AT ITS INTERSECTION WITH FROST AVENUE. THE STACK IS ABOUT 250 FEET EAST OF WHITE BEAR AVENUE AND ABOUT ON LINE WITH FROST AVENUE. THERE IS A SILVER WATER TANK ABOUT 60 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE STACK. THE POOR FARM IS ABOUT 1/2 MILE NORTH OF THE CITY LIMITS OF ST. PAUL NEAR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE CITY.
1/1/1960 by CGS (GOOD)
RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1960 (RCY) STATION RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION AS DESCRIBED.
9/10/1994 by USPSQD (GOOD)
RECOVERY NOTE BY US POWER SQUADRON 1994 RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION.

Control Text

  • The horizontal coordinates were established by classical geodetic methods and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in March 1999.
  • The Laplace correction was computed from DEFLEC99 derived deflections.
  • The geoid height was determined by GEOID99.

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