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Details for Benchmark: LY2725

N 41° 21.846 W 075° 42.194 (NAD 83)

Altitude: 1005

Coordinates may not be exact. Altitude is VERTCON and location is ADJUSTED. (more info)

Location:
In LACKAWANNA county, PA View Original Datasheet
Designation:
SPRINGER
Marker Type:
NGS Benchmark
Setting:
setting not listed - see description
Stability:

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Well after some more searching I finally found RM2. I needed a metal detector and some luck.

The reason RM2 has been so hard to find is because the direction is NOT South East but North East and there is no Oak tree within 10' of RM2. Also as a side note that RM1 is closer to due North or North West than what is listed (northeast). The track road is very hard to see and not good for measurements.

The Azmith mark is most likely destroyed. I talked to the land owner where the most likely pole was and he said that the area has gone through extensive regrading in the past 10 years. The pole has been replaced twice. I did take the metal detector around the area and found nothing.

[This entry was edited by Lunatic728 on Friday, April 04, 2008 at 12:16:02 AM.]

[Photos:]
photoRM 2 1' below the surface.
photoOne dirty benchmark
The rock was chiseled out so the mark has a flat spot to sit.
photoArea around RM 2
I left a Pressure treated steak, so it might be easier to find the next time.
photoRM 1
photoSpringer

Well I went back today with some tools to find Springer RM2.

I put markers at both Springer and RM1. I didn't paint them and they are made out of Pressure treated wood and should last a while.

I found what looked like an old track road and from that I did my measurements. I also found 2 depressions 1 close to the road and then 1 about 4' from the base of an oak tree. The odd thing the holes were in line with each other and SE about the distance from where the witness post should have been. Even around one hole I found an old fanny pack.

I had no joy in either hole, so on I went to every oak tree I could find. So over 4 hrs of work yielded no sign of RM2. I am sad to say.

If you are going to look for RM2 I would suggest a metal detector. I will try again.

Here are some pictures so you know what you are in for.

[Photos:]
photoJust one hole on the day
No officer its not a grave, I'm just looking for a benchmark.
photoIt's here somewhere
This was just really hard to walk through.

You can park on Rocky Glen Rd. where the power lines cross the road.

Out for the day I figured I would look for Springer. I did find the benchmark and RM1

While looking for RM2. The distance and direction place this mark close to the edge of 5’ deep ditch. I did find an old truck cab but nothing that would look like a spot for the RM. Considering the RM was placed by a 4" oak tree that tree could be 2' in dia. and there were a couple of trees that match. I think with RM2 1' below the surface I will need a metal detector to find it.

The Azimuth Disk was nowhere in site around any telephone poles out on the road. The poles look new and the mark could have been covered or destroyed by road work.

[This entry was edited by Lunatic728 on Monday, October 29, 2007 at 5:32:58 PM.]

[This entry was edited by Lunatic728 on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 2:03:22 PM.]

[Photos:]
photoClose up of benchmark
photoClose up of benchmark

I came back on this sunny morning to take a photo of the station mark, and I ended up finding reference mark #1 as well.

Zhanna

[Photos:]
photoLY2725, Lackawanna County, PA
photoThe area around Springer.
Lots of fun to walk around in!
photoLY2725 RM1
photoThe area near RM1.
N 41° 21.848 W 075° 42.194

After a dreadfully long day at work (sunny and 60° -- after the winter we've had -- and nevertheless there were about 600 people spending the day in the library!), I needed to get out. Aaron showed up with a plan. We bought sandwiches and Doritos and sat at a picnic table at the South Abington park to eat a mostly peaceful meal (I narrowly avoided being hit in the head with a flying soccer ball at least twice). Then we went for a drive and on a whim decided to scout out the area around this benchmark. Finding ample parking and no real barriers to access, we headed into the brush. There was some heavy bushwhacking to be done, and we found a few trashy party spots, but we also found some neat trails. We fought our way to the coordinates and after a few minutes I spotted a bit of concrete poking out from under the leaves. The concrete monument held the station mark! Unfortunately we were unable to take a photo this time, and we chose not to search for the reference marks because it was growing dark. So I don't consider this a true find. I'll be back!

Zhanna and Aaron

Documented History (by the NGS)

01/01/1960 by CGS (MONUMENTED)
DESCRIBED BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1960 (JCC) THE STATION IS LOCATED ON A LOW BRUSH COVERED HILL, ABOUT 1.0 MILE SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF MINOOKA, 2.0 MILES EAST OF OLD FORGE AND ON PROPERTY OWNED BY MRS. ISABELL SPRINGER. TO REACH THE STATION FROM THE JUNCTIONS OF U.S. HIGHWAY 11 AND STATE HIGHWAY 315 AT THE EAST EDGE OF MOOSIC, GO NORTH ON U.S. HIGHWAY 11 AND STATE HIGHWAY 315 FOR 0.7 MILE TO A SIDE ROAD RIGHT AND GLEN MARKET ON THE RIGHT, TURN RIGHT AND GO 0.5 MILE TO THE AZIMUTH MARK ON THE LEFT, CONTINUE EAST ON ASPHALT ROAD FOR 0.2 MILE TO A SIDE ROAD LEFT JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO THE CHRISTIAN MISSONARY ALLIANCE TABERNACLE CHURCH ON THE LEFT, TURN LEFT AND GO NORTH ON DIRT TRACK ROAD FOR 0.2 MILE TO A WHITE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT, CONTINUE NORTH ON DIRT TRACK ROAD FOR 0.1 MILE TO A Y-FORK, TAKE RIGHT FORK AND GO EAST FOR 0.1 MILE TO THE END OF THE ROAD, TURN SHARP RIGHT AND GO SOUTH FOR ABOUT 195.0 FEET TO THE STATION. STATION MARK, IS A STANDARD DISK SET IN THE TOP OF A CONCRETE MONUMENT, STAMPED SPRINGER 1960, WHICH PROJECTS ABOUT 2 INCHES ABOVE THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND. IT IS 26.4 FEET NORTHEAST OF A SPOIL BANK AND 8.3 FEET SOUTH OF A STANDARD METAL WITNESS POST AND MARKER. REFERENCE MARK 1, IS A STANDARD DISK SET IN THE TOP OF A 2 BY 3 FOOT BOULDER, STAMPED SPRINGER NO 1 1960, WHICH PROJECT ABOUT 6 INCHES ABOVE THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND. IT IS 54.8 FEET NORTHEAST OF A STANDARD METAL WITNESS POST AND MARKER. IT IS ABOUT THE SAME ELEVATION AS THE STATION. REFERENCE MARK 2, IS A STANDARD DISK SET IN THE TOP OF BEDROCK, STAMPED SPRINGER NO 2 1960, WHICH IS ABOUT 1.0 FOOT BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND. IT IS ABOUT 126.0 FEET SOUTHWEST OF A TRACK ROAD, 74.8 FEET SOUTHEAST OF A STANDARD METAL WITNESS POST AND MARKER, 18.4 FEET SOUTHEAST OF A TRACK ROAD LEADING TO THE STATION AND 4.2 FEET NORTH-NORTHWEST OF A 4-INCH OAK TREE. IT IS ABOUT 2.0 FEET LOWER THAN THE STATION. AZIMUTH MARK, IS A STANDARD DISK SET IN THE TOP OF A CONCRETE MONUMENT, STAMPED SPRINGER 1960, WHICH PROJECTS ABOUT 2 INCHES ABOVE THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND. IT IS 17.2 FEET NORTH-NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER LINE OF AN APHALT ROAD, 3.4 FEET WEST OF A STANDARD METAL WITNESS POST AND MARKER AND 2.0 FEET NORTH-NORTHEAST OF A POWER LINE POLE. HEIGHT OF LIGHT ABOVE STATION MARK 22.51 METERS.
01/01/1962 by CGS (SEE DESCRIPTION)
RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1962 (FBM) THIS STATION WAS RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION AS DESCRIBED EXCEPT THAT THE WITNESS MARKER HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE POST.
01/01/1984 by PWPCO (GOOD)
RECOVERY NOTE BY PENNSYLVANIA WATER AND POWER COMPANY 1984 (GMB) STATION AND REFERENCE MARKS RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. THE STATION IS LOCATED TO THE WEST (TO THE REAR OF) GLEASON CABINET COMPANY.

Control Text

  • The horizontal coordinates were established by classical geodetic methods and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in September 1999.
  • The NAVD 88 height was computed by applying the VERTCON shift value to the NGVD 29 height (displayed under SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL.)
  • The Laplace correction was computed from DEFLEC99 derived deflections.
  • The geoid height was determined by GEOID99.

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