Out caching with my good mate whitefriar. Some philosophical discussion of which was the "right" butress was cut off by WF spotting the cache. A quick assessment suggested that, again, the abseil could be dispensed with. In short order an ascent was made, the cache reached, the log signed and the cache replaced. Retrieval of the equipment used briefly presented a problem until a sufficiently long stick could be found. That made four out of four, all FTFs, so we were feeling pretty pleased with ourselves.