Ok I am not ashamed to be the first to fail at this one. I wasn't alone in my utter failure at this....but com kelp and I had/have an excellent strategy but just came up empty. We knew the odds were against but what the heck? I wish Jeff was a retired stock broker so he could have helped out my investments abit, but we had a great time catching up on what was going on with each other! We'll see. There's more than one way to skin a evil cache, and I am very patient. I wonder though...if this CO sleeps well at night? All these evil micros....;).