One of two traditionals in the city I had trouble findinging in the past so thought I would try again now that there are fewer leaves on trees and less ground cover. Today I found it without much of a problem. I is a nice hide. The Grose Pathtag the last cacher to make this find left in the cache was not there today. Was a cacher there and did not log the find or has it been muggled? We may never know. At any rate the cache is well.