Finally got this one off the to do list. Was in the running for the FTF way back when, but could get the numbers right for the puzzle. I still am not sure how, but i was not even close. I stopped back a time or two, but never laid a hand on the log. Today I breezed to the area and made the find rather quick. Thanks for the info. I hope the signs can make it back soon. It was good info to share.