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History in the Marking Part 1:Schoharie County 1.1 Mystery Cache

Hidden : 9/15/2006
Difficulty:
2.5 out of 5
Terrain:
2 out of 5

Size: Size:   small (small)

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History in the Marking Part 1-Schoharie County 1.1

The State Historic Marker Program closed in 1939 and with it its funding. Despite the advice to adopt a new marker shape, proportion, and color scheme, following the close of the State program in 1939, local individuals and local historical and governmental organizations continued to erect at their own initiative and expense "state" historic markers very similar to the originals. None of these similar looking markers - erected after 1939 and NOT by the State Education Department [1929-1939] - appear on the website.
  • George R. Hamell

  • Ethnology Collections Manager

  • Research & Collections Division New York State Museum


History in the Marking Part 1: Albany County 1.1 This cache is part of the “History in the Marking Part 1” cache. To get credit for this cache, you will need to collect some information, then manipulate that information to determine the coordinates. The coordinates that you figure out will put you close to a place to park to continue your adventure in history! To get credit for the “History in the Marking Part 1” you will have to complete this cache, as well as all of the other caches involved in this listing.

The “History in the Marking Part 1” cache has 22 components. To get credit for this cache, you will need to complete 14 (part a) caches, which will lead you to an additional 7 (part b) caches, which will then lead you to what I have dubbed, the “Final Final”.

Here’s what you will be doing:

Part a

Follow a trail of waypoints that mark a single (or a few) historical signs. Retrieve the information necessary from said signs to come up with a waypoint that has a micro with coordinates for a final or multi-final location. Each of the caches will have the required logbook as well as one set of coordinates for that county’s “final”.

What you are looking for--><--The blue sign, not the building!

This is a picture of what you would be basically looking for! Not the building, but the blue sign in front of it! Not all signs are blue with yellow trim and lettering. Some may be brown, green, and even white.

Part b

If you find the two finals for each county, then you will have the complete set of coordinates for that county’s final which will then have a piece of a coordinate for the “Final Final”. All 21 parts will have to be completed in order to find the “Final Final”. Failure to do all parts may lead you to an incorrect spot!!

What the above means is that there is no way to cheat the system on this one! You will have to plot your points, and take the drive! The I.P. is the suggested beginning, generally for a good reason. Some trails end where others begin, so you may find yourself driving a bit more than you might have thought!!

For various locations, you will be asked to retrieve information from the “Title”, “Body”, or “Reference” portions. See the sign segments below to see what I am talking about.



For this sign, this is the title. Some titles may say, “Site of…” or have a long arrow pointing in one direction with a distance on the next line.


The body portion describes the event or dwelling that was near here.


The “reference” is a name I have given this portion. It usually states who put the sign up and sometimes when the sign was erected. This portion is often excluded from information gathering.

Destination of this trip is located at:


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  • Sign 1-There are two signs near this waypoint. Find the one dealing with smoke and locate the year this item was tested. Find the other sign and locate the year that it was placed. Subtract the year placed from the successful test. The result is ‘r’.
  • Sign 2-How many dates appear in the body of this sign? This number is ‘d’.
  • Sign 3-Find the day in October that this object burned down. Add the two digits together to find ‘k’.
  • Sign 4-This was which settlement in Schoharie County? This number is ‘j’.
  • Sign 5-The second digit that appears in the body of text is ‘h’.
  • Sign 6-The number most repeated in the body of this sign is ‘i’.
  • Sign 7-Excluding ones, which number is the most prominent on this sign? This number is ‘e’.
  • Sign 8-Look at the year the council assembled here. The last digit of that year is ‘c’.
  • Sign 9-Which number in the years this place was founded is repeated? This number is ‘g’.
  • Sign 10-Find the last number in the body of this sign. That number is ‘f’.
  • Sign 11-The month that court was held here has ??? days in it. Add those two digits together to find ‘a’.
  • Sign 12-Including the title of this sign, how many different names was this place known as? This includes the "original villages" portion of this sign. This number is ‘p’.
  • Sign 13-This sign is unique. It has different text on each side. Each side gives a range for when this site was in operation. On each side, count the years in operation, including the beginning year and ending year. Subtract the lesser total from the higher total. This number is ‘b’.
  • Sign 14-The last digit located in the body of this sign is ‘d’.
  • Sign 15-Three signs comprise the last bit of information for this cache location.
  • Find the sign that was placed in 1939. Write down how long the man indicated on this sign was a pastor here.
  • Find the sign placed by the Schoharie County Historical Society and subtract the regiment number from the previous number.
  • From the last sign in this area, look for the year range. Taking the last two digits of the first range, subtract the last two digits of the second range.
  • Take this number and subtract it from the number you calculated above to find ‘m’.


The other caches are listed below.

Part a:

  1. History in the Marking Part 1: Albany County 1.0
  2. History in the Marking Part 1: Albany County 1.1
  3. History in the Marking Part 1: Columbia County 1.0
  4. History in the Marking Part 1: Columbia County 1.1
  5. History in the Marking Part 1: Montgomery County 1.0
  6. History in the Marking Part 1: Montgomery County 1.1
  7. History in the Marking Part 1: Rensselaer County 1.0
  8. History in the Marking Part 1: Rensselaer County 1.1
  9. History in the Marking Part 1: Saratoga County 1.0
  10. History in the Marking Part 1: Saratoga County 1.1
  11. History in the Marking Part 1: Schenectady County 1.0
  12. History in the Marking Part 1: Schenectady County 1.1
  13. History in the Marking Part 1: Schoharie County 1.0

Part b:

  1. History in the Marking Part 1: Albany Final
  2. History in the Marking Part 1: Columbia Final
  3. History in the Marking Part 1: Montgomery Final
  4. History in the Marking Part 1: Rensselaer Final
  5. History in the Marking Part 1: Saratoga Final
  6. History in the Marking Part 1: Schenectady Final
  7. History in the Marking Part 1: Schoharie Final

Final Final

  1. History in the Marking: Final Final


Please do not be intimidated by seeing this as a “22 part monster cache” as not all parts have to be done. Do one, three, seven, 14, 21, or all 22. The choice is yours!





    Thanks to Mark B. and Stargeezer (Mr. and Mrs.) for being the guinea pig on this one!






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    Additional Hints (Decrypt)

    Fraq zr na rznvy nurnq bs gvzr vs lbh jbhyq yvxr gb erprvir zl pryy cubar ahzore va pnfr lbh unir n ceboyrz nybat gur jnl. v.r. zvffvat fvtaf, hanoyr gb ybpngr zvpebf, rgp. Cneg bar: onfr bs gerr, cneg gjb, fghzc 'gjrra ebnq naq srapr.

    Decryption Key

    A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M
    -------------------------
    N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z

    (letter above equals below, and vice versa)