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The 'dry' Subcrawl (reborn) Multi-Cache

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Hidden : 4/22/2008
Difficulty:
2 out of 5
Terrain:
2 out of 5

Size: Size:   small (small)

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After the demise of the original 'dry' Subcrawl I have decided to redo this cache. Most of the details listed below have been copied from the original cache GCRRAE.



DUE THE THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING MENTIONED IN THE QUESTION FOR BRIDGE STREET THE ANSWER IS 5



The posted coordinates mentioned above are bogus.

The 'dry' Subcrawl is a puzzle cache where you travel round Glasgow using the subway to collect the answers to the questions listed below.

The 'dry' part of the subcrawl means you do it without alcholic drinks... A subcrawl is a favourite of the student population, moving round Glasgow on the subway getting off at each stop to have a drink in the nearest public house. They visit old men's pubs, trendy clubs and football supporters bars where the wrong colour of clothing or name could lead to 'misunderstandings'. An even more demanding variation of it is the 'Dairy Milk' Subcrawl, referring to the chocolate adverts where they say "a glass and a half in every bar". Given that a hauf is a single spirit measure and a glass is a double, you can see the potential.

This ones suitable for the under 18's though! If you are superfit, apart from Govan/Partick where you'd need to use the pedestrian Clyde Tunnel, you could even walk or cycle it without any trains!

What do you do?

Buy a Discovery ticket at any station - £2.50 - after 9.30am. This will give you unlimited travel on the subway for the whole day. As you exit each station there will be a clue nearby. Don't look in the gutter all the time they are all found without specialist equipment. Once you have found answers to all the clues you will be able to work out where the cache is located. I have listed the coordinates of each station as waypoints so when you have the final coordinates you will be able to see which station is closest to your answer. I've listed all the stations alphabetically. You can start anywhere and travel in whatever direction you like and in whatever order you wish. The cache will take a morning or afternoon to complete or longer depending on how often you stop for refreshments along the way.

The 'Subway' is still known to folk over a certain age as 'The Underground'- from days when underground trains were a proper red colour and not Strathclyde Region Orange. The system dates from 1896 when there was an engineering frenzy of tunneling in Glasgow, including the original Clyde Tunnel with vehicular and passenger tunnels. The Rotundas still exist, the former pedestrian tunnel is only for water mains now and the vehicular tunnels have been filled in.

There are countless disued railway tunnels in the city. Queen Street railway station has ground level lines from Edinburgh and the North, and also the sub surface low level lines from Helensburgh and Airdrie. Central Station has the raised lines to London and also Paisley, Gourock, Ayr, etc. It's lower level station has the Argyle line below Argyle Street, currently used for the Dalmuir - Lanark line.

Below the railway bridges near the Clyde many railway arches are seen but there is also a myriad of passage ways and work spaces that exist under the whole station and hotel complex, below the station plaza at street level and also underground.

The Subway Underground trains were originally drawn round by wire rope from stationary engines, converting to electrical power in 1933. The Underground was the only cable drawn underground in the world. The track was unusal in that each circle was separate with no points. For maintenance each coach was lifted out up to ground level at a maintenance works near Govan Station. In the event of a breakdown a battery powered loco was lowered onto the track and sent to recover the failed train.

The 1st generation trains ran as pairs of coaches, remaining in service for 80 years!! An original coach and the recovery loco can been seen at The Transport Museum in Burnhouse Road. (nearest subway station is kelvinhall) When it was re-developed in 1979, the new trains also ran as pairs, but with the purchase of more rolling stock they now run with 3 coaches.

Renovation also changed the track in that points were installed to allow trains from either circle to drive to and from the surface for work and to add trains at peak times. Some stations had the entrances altered, Like Buchanan Street or were renamed. Whilst travelling most trains will be orange (Strathclyde red) but a few maybe the new brown and cream colours and you may see one of the Centennial coaches in part of the train.

In 1896 a circuit took 40 minutes, it now takes 24 minutes so your longest trip would be 12 minutes.

Don't go like you have just stepped off Ben Macdhui, you won't need your GPSr till the cache, don't wear football colours at 'G' and take your ticket each time it's been through the machine!

Have fun it's best not to do it like Colin though...Click Here


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The Locations:

A: Bridge Street: Walk out of the station turn left and cross the carpark, you will see a now derelict cinema. What was it's name? (carved into red sandstone on the carpark side of the building) A=1, B=2, C=3, ect. What is the value of the 6th letter? THE BUILDING IS NOW DEMOLISHED THE ANSWER IS 5. NEW QUESTION TO FOLLOW__

B: Buchanan Street: Uphill exit (don't take the escalator to Queen Street) onto Buchanan Street and turn left to The Athenaeum. On the 1st floor there is a balcony, how many stone balustrades are there? divide by 2 and you get? __

C: Cessnock: This station is unusual in that it was built as an integral part of the tenements adjoining the end of Walmer Crescent. There is a plaque to a famous architect on the front of the tenement. What is the year? X X __ X

D: Cowcaddens: Come out of the station and go straight under the underpass, you will see a building on the right hand side called Dundas Court. How many iron gate posts flank the main gate? __

E: Govan: Fairfield's is probably the best known of Govan's shipyards. A former shipbuilder bequeathed 'The Pearce Institute' to the citizens. Above the main door you will see a combination of six letters and numbers. Look at the fourth one if it is a letter use A=1, B=2, C=3 etc. if a number use as is.X X X __ X X (Govan Parish Church is world renowned for the number of 'Hogback' stones contained within. It is on your route.)

F: Hillhead: Come out onto Byres Road and turn left, turn left again into Ashton Lane. Look for somewhere called The Ubiquitous Chip inside the porch on the left hand side you will see a date. the third digit? X X __ X

G: Ibrox: Turn right and look for Copland Court. On the entrance, how many blocks of stone stand out of the archway starting from the centre arch?__

H: Kelvinbridge: How many sets of triple lights are on the bridge?__ The carpark below was formerly a railway station, see the bridges below disappearing into yet more tunnels. It's worth taking a look underneath the road bridge at the way the cast iron is used to make the structure.

I: Kelvin hall: Come out of the Subway Station onto Dumbarton road and turn left and walk to the Kelvinhall. It will take 5 - 6 minutes. How many Globes can you see on top of the hall?__

J: Kinning park: Which US state is mentioned on the cyclists sign? The second letter in the name? use A=1, B=2, C=3, etc.__

K: Partick: The number of hanging balls you see in Merkland Street?__

L: Shields Road: Come out of the station and turn left walk to and cross the road at the pedestrian lights. You will see Charles Rennie Mackintosh's Scotland Street Museum. How many bells do you see?__

M: St Enoch: Come out of the station on the Argyle Street side and turn left you will see The Teacher Building when was it established? The forth number. X X X __

N: St Georges Cross: Use the underpass below Great Western Road, turn left when you get to Melrose Street and go into Queens Crescent with its fountain in the gardens. Look at the houses/offices. Study them carefully until you are at your 'Wits End'! Whats the number?__

O: West Street: Turn left into Cook Street and see the imfamous bridge carrying the railway likes to Paisley and Barrhead. Walk underneath to the far edge of the first bridge and you'll see the problem - despite good signage, drivers of high vehicles continually hit the lower of the two at 10'6" high. Double decker buses with drivers unfamiliar with their route have caused fatalities so the road was blocked off. What is the date on the maker's plate on the first bridge? The third number. X X __ X


The way to work it out:


N55* 5S.TUV

W004* 1W.XYZ

S= D-I
T= H-K
U= F-E
V= H-G-I
W= N+M-I
X= A+C-I
Y= B-O
Z= G-J+L


You can compare rthe coordinates you get from the equation above with the waypoints listed below to work out which station the cache cahe is hidden close to.


DON’T FORGET ABOUT……GLENDARUEL CACHE BASH 13th-15th JUNE 2008 GC1952X....EVERYONE WELCOME



Additional Hints (Decrypt)

oruvaq n zbffl oevpx ng gur onfr bs n fghzc gung unf abj fcebhgrq gnyy guva oenapurf naq jngpu bhg sbe gur wnttvrf

Decryption Key

A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M
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N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z

(letter above equals below, and vice versa)