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Salem's Subway? Mystery Cache

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subwaymark: I've decided to archive this cache. It has disappeared many times and every time I go to replace it, GZ is a trash heap. I don't want others to experience the same. I am thinking about a another version of this puzzle cache, but need to think about a good GZ for it... Thanks to all who did find this cache!

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Hidden : 5/10/2008
Difficulty:
3.5 out of 5
Terrain:
1.5 out of 5

Size: Size:   micro (micro)

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Geocache Description:

Cache is NOT at the posted coordinates, although you might find NY Subway map and some pizza inside the building here.

I bet you would never guess that Salem has an active subway today!! Well after you figure out this puzzle you still may still keep guessing.

Subways don't always mean railroads underground, although this cache will take you very near a railroad. The more generic term of subway just means subterranean passage. The cache is near a particular one that was built in 1936 in cooperation with the Southern Pacific Railroad, US Bureau of Public Roads and the Oregon State Highway Commission (now ODOT).

Okay, now to figure out the coordinates for the cache! As you may have figured out, I am a bit of a subway fan. This puzzle cache will let you in to my other hobby a bit. Who knows, maybe it will help you ride a subway someday! All the answers can be found on the Internet, you will need some map reading skills to figure out most of these questions. Then some math is involved.

The Coords are: N44 AB.CDE W123 FG.HIJ. So Here We Go!
I grew up in NY, all the the follow questions can be found by looking at a NY Subway Map!!

a) I went to Manhattan College on the #1 Line. The school is located at the northern terminal of the #1 (hint: in the Bronx)
        - Take the street number of this station, subtract 17 then divide by 45: This equals A

b) I grew up in Brooklyn. My Dad would take the subway to work in Manhattan. We lived near the F Line. He would normally board at Avenue I, but sometimes he would use the station one stop north of Ave I
        - Take the street number of this station and subtract 11 from it:  This equals B

c) This station in Manhattan is one of the busiest. The following subway transfers can be made here: 1,2,3,7,A,C,E,N,Q,R,W,S. Think Ball Drop.
        - Take this station's street number, divide by 3, then subtract 7: This equals C

d) The longest subway line in NY is the A line. It runs from northern Manhattan to the Rockaways in Queens. Some A trains take you a former amusement park spot.
        - Take the street number of the "park" terminal of the A/H line divide by 4, then subtract 21: This equals D

e) One of the most crowded subway routes in Manhattan is the Lexington Ave Line. It is the only north-south subway on Manhattan's East side, at least until the 2nd Ave Subway is opened (which is not for many years)
        - There are 3 subway line serving the "green" Lexington Ave Line. Add up these 3 numbers, then subtract 6: This equals E

 



Okay, enough NY stuff, there are subways all around the US and the world.

f) The Washington DC Metro is a great show piece system with wonderful stations. It is also the 2nd busiest subway in the US.
        - The "hub" station is ______  ______ where the Red, Blue & Orange Lines converge. Count the letters in this station (no spaces). Then subtract 11: This equals F

g) Chicago has a great system with elevated lines in the downtown loop in addition to Subways. Chicago is also a Baseball town with the White Sox and Cubs both served by the north-south Red Line
        - The Red Line stop for the White Sox ball park is called Sox-XX. XX is the street number. Take that number and divide by 7, then subtract 5. This equals G

h) San Francisco has the famous BART system with what was considered futuristic trains when it first opened in 1972. The hub of the system is really in Oakland which funnels trains into SF.
        - The Oakland City Center transfer station also has a street number. Take that number and subtract 5. This equals H

i) Lets go to Europe: Paris, what a beautiful city, with a fantastic metro network. You are never more then 600 yards from a metro stop.
        - Take the highest numbered line and divide by 2: This equals I

j) The Final Question: Tokyo is well known for its packed subways and commuter trains, complete with pushers to cram more people on the trains. It is a very complex system!
        - There are actually 2 subway systems, The Tokyo Metro and the TOEI system. How many lines does ONLY the TOEI system operate, then add 1: This Equals J

 




 
Now you should have the coords, check your answers for this puzzle on Geochecker.com.

For the FTF there is a Green Oregon SAGA Coin (not trackable) and the Utah Quarter (Golden Spike Ceremony). CONGRATS to Shadow101 for FTF!!

BTW: A little trivia: Salem actually did have a "subway" with small trains running between the various State Hospital buildings along (& under) Center Street

GOOD LUCK!

 

This cache is eligible for the Disappearing-Reappearing RR Blues Bonus Cache, GC2417R, where you need to find 18 of my RR themed caches including any Disappearing RR Blues, Reappearing RR Smiles and Oregon RR History series caches.

 

Additional Hints (Decrypt)

Rireterra, 3 fbhgu, purfg uvtu, fznyy ovfba

Decryption Key

A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M
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N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z

(letter above equals below, and vice versa)