Howlingmoon: I REALLY don' want to do tis but, after what just happened, it must be done. [:(] I was sitting there in my car, getting the brand new container all ready to go, when what pulls up behind me ? A cop. sigh I had to explain geocaching to him, and he eventually decided that I didn't need to be there, period. And that my cache didn't need to be there, period. GRRR. Tis was my first hide, and I was REALLY hoping to save it but, what are you gonna do when "the man" tells you no ? I'll try to get more hidden in the near future but, no promises. Car's still in horrible condition. Thank you to everyone who found tis one while it lasted.