gillyboots: Over the years, we have replaced the cache several times, due mostly to the frequent flooding in the park. Now, with the updated requirements from the Hamilton County Park District -- Only clear, non-camouflaged containers with HCPD permit # clearly displayed on the outside, less than 25 ft. from the pavement -- we've determined that it would be impossible to maintain a tree-hidden container that would not be muggle bait. And, a container can't be placed in a covered ground level setting because of the flood-prone terrain. We tried that and it apparently went sailing down the river. So, we give up!