Skagway330: My host device for the log container was a bird house and to make the find more challenging I installed a cup hook in a dark corner of the interior ceiling which made it difficult to see but easy to reach and take down, sign the log etc. I requested folks to replace the container exactly as found so each new cacher would be able to enjoy the same challenge. I simply got tired of NEVER finding the container hung up as originally installed but tossed into the bird house or into the yard or never finding the container at all.