Goldenwattle: I checked this cache today and where it is hidden has become a TIP. It's COVERED in garbage. Disgusting! I didn't want to poke in there to get my cache and it is unfair to expect others to either. I suspect at least one finder only got this far and didn't actually locate the cache. They described, when asked, the area, but not the cache. When I hid the cache it was not the tip it is now. This cache had always been problematic, as the first two trees I hid it at got chopped down, then the cache got muggled more than once at the third tree hide. This was the fourth hide. Time to archive [:(]. Goodbye.