Nanner_13: got out on the back trail today and searched around. Some was as i remember it but in other ways the area has changed. Expanded my search to be sure but never stumbled on what seemed right. I think it is possible that it was picked up to clean up the area around the trails or the camouflage rotted away. saw a lot of great hide spots in the area GZ so I have decided I won't be replacing this but will give up the location for other cachers more local to utilize. Now that is area has official trail I expect that someone will want to put more hides out here. Thanks to all who attempted this one