Awhile back I had a neighbor give me this cache container and I thought it would be fun to use it. No need to remove the container from its hiding spot, the actually log is hanging from it. Wife and I were up this way enjoying the many views and found the trail head to Horsethief trail and no caches on it. This cache should be easy to get once your here. However you will need to either drive a high clearance vehicle ,bike which is a long trip or hike which is a really really long trip. Next time I am up here I want to explore this trail which seems to go all the way down the mountain according to a satelite view. Happy caching and don't forget to watch for critters and be prepared. You should check to make sure appropriate gates are open before attempting..