I had a cache here before , but they did a remodel of the orchard and fence and the waste ended up piled on the cache ! So I thought I would try again , cache should be easy to find ,not to much of a snakey spot at least not in a pile of rocks .But of course the area is a snakey area. Looking for a 4x4 lock and lock .The trail is a great hike even if you go a little ways up , great views .