We are looking for that perfect ideal spot to place the perfect geocache. We didn't find that spot today, but we like to be outside together, surrounded by trees, to be on or off the path, to play in/on/near water and to geocache. We found a hard terrain to place an easy cache. Some of our group slid down the hill a bit, but sliding isn't required. If you do find yourself more horizontal than vertical consider yourself closer to the hide. This isn't an amazing cache. It's more for the location. BYOP. Cords may be difficult due to really good tree cover. No need to look at the fence. Congratulations to djgr for FTF.