MS 04 - The Great Debate Mystery Cache

This cache has been archived.

WA_Puzzler: The time has come to archive this series - five years is long enough and with so few finds, and even fewer solves, the recent fires have put the nail in the coffin for the series. At least 80% of the caches were retrieved a couple of days ago and are currently sitting on my back verandah, awaiting retrieval of the logs, and the others have been totally destroyed. Any caches out in place now are throw downs and finds on these will be deleted. Thankyou to all the geocachers who solved the puzzles and then enjoyed the finding of the caches. It really is a beautiful part of the WA bush, and a part that will forever be known as MS Land to many of us!

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Hidden : 4/30/2016
Difficulty:
2 out of 5
Terrain:
1.5 out of 5

Size: Size: small (small)

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Geocache Description:



The cache is NOT at the listed coordinates!!



MS 04




The Great Debate


At last year's WA Goes BIG 2015 event in Busselton, attendees were asked to nominate which type of gps capable devices they used when out on the hunt. Interestingly, the comparison between gps users and smart phones was pretty close, with a smattering of people using other devices, such as in-car navigators or even intuition and the odd jet-ski to find some geocaches and add yet another smiley face to their statistics.

Until recently, the purists have always argued that dedicated hand-held gps units would always be far more accurate and reliable than smart phones, especially when it came to taking coordinates to upload to a geocache listing. But as Bob Dylan sang, way back in 1964, The Times They Are a-Changin'.



Smart phones allow geocachers to access live maps and real time downloads of nearby geocaches along with the ability to filter and log them on the run. Smart phone geocaching apps can search, locate, map, list and log geocaches anywhere you have Internet connectivity. The downside to logging them on the run though is that it is far too easy to log a generic TFTC or similar and not acknowledge the time and effort that the cache owner took to place the cache and set up the listing.

While smart phone's continue to improve, their gps capabilities are only as good as the phone they are installed on – and not all phones are created equal. Smart phone manufacturers have to make compromises in design, components and function to fit everything together. And this may be why smart phones are renowned for having coordinates bounce around especially under tree cover or in heavy terrain areas.


Whichever side of the debate you happen to support, you are probably far more interested in knowing where this cache is hiding than adding your two cents worth to the melee. So onto the puzzle, which requires you to look at some statistics from that survey we took, deduce some other statistics from what you are given, then do a few little calculations. Should be easy peasy for a geocaching puzzler master like yourself!

From our survey, we know that:

· Even though 145 geocaching teams logged their Will Attends, not all of them were able to make it to the event.
· Of the teams who did attend, 88 said that they used a hand-held gps.
· 78 said that they used a smart phone.
· And surprisingly, 46 said that they used another type of device (like an in-car gps - hey, different strokes for different folks! - or that they didn’t have their own device but cached with someone else who did).
· We also know that 53 used both a hand-held gps and a smart phone at times.
· 24 teams said they cached with used both a smart phone and another type of device.
· 27 teams said they used both a hand-held gps and another type of device.
· And the final bit of information we have is that 71 teams said that they used only two types of devices when they were out caching.

Ground Zero is at S 32° 38.??? E 116° 01.???


To work out the missing South decimals:

· First multiply the number of people who used only a hand-held gps with the number of people who logged a Will Attend but didn’t show up, then double this.
· Next multiply the number of people who used only a smart phone with the number of people who used only another type of device and then triple this.
· Lastly, with the two numbers you now have, subtract the smaller number from the larger number, then add 8.
Working out the missing East decimals is a bit simpler:

· First multiply the number of teams who used all three types of devices by 12, then add 10.


Good Luck!
FTF Congratulations
WebblyWA & Clan-Wallace



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