bahbi: Oh my. Checked on 3 caches today and this is quite the unusual outcome. One had to be replaced, the next one definitely disappeared and since this keeps on happening that one is now archived. Now that I'm at this third one , it looks like it is all up under and behind a bunch of painter's equipment and what not at the moment. Sigh. I'm not getting the feeling they are going to be gone anytime soon, and the area has gotten more trashy. I don't like to bring other cachers where I would not want to go myself, so I am archiving this one at this time.