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Knežja (Firštova) miza / Prince´s table 🍽️ Traditional Cache

Hidden : 5/21/2023
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Miza se nahaja v gozdičku za informativno tablo ob predlaganem parkirišču.

Prve zapise o Knežji mizi v Kamniški Bistrici je moč najti že v zapisih Janeza Vajkarda Valvasorja, ki je o Knežji mizi v Kamniški Bistrici zapisal: »Kamniška Bistrica (Kamenska Bistrica) izvira dve milji nad mestom Kamnikom in v visokem zasneženem gorovju. Blizu izvira je narava sama ustvarila čudovit most… Pri omenjenem mostu je redkost, ki je na gori označenem bakrotisku vidna. Niže spodaj stoji namreč kamnita plošča, na kateri obedujejo deželni knezi, kadar so v Bistrici na lovu.«

Od kdaj je stala na tem mestu miza lahko sicer samo ugibamo, spričo slikovite narave, pa bržčas na tem mestu nekdaj ni bila zgolj občasna obedovalnica deželnih knezov, ampak je imel prostor najbrž tudi posvečen oz. obreden pomen.

Prav ta knežja miza, ki se je nahajala ob koritih Velikega Predaslja, je burila duhove mnogim zgodovinarjem v 19. in 20. stoletju. Domnevali so, da naj bi ob tej mizi obedoval celo cesar Maksimiljan, toda pisnih dokazov za to ni, stari zapisi pa navajajo, da je leta 1564 tu obedoval nadvojvoda Karel. Iz članka prof. Franca Rihterja, ki je izšel 23. oktobra 1818 v ljubljanskem tedniku Libacher Wochenblatt, izvemo celo za dimenzije mize in napis na njej: "Ta knežja miza je ovalni kamen, 34 palcev dolg, 25 palcev širok in 16 palcev debel (42 centimetrov debel in ovalno zaokrožen kamen, dolg 90 in širok 60 centimetrov) in nosi napis: Ao 1564, die 29 aprilis Carol Austriae luc prausit (Leta 1564 dne 29. aprila je avstrijski nadvojvoda Karl tu obedoval). Nadvojvoda štajerski, kranjski, koroški, goriški in istrijanski, ki je imel svoj sedež v Gradcu je prišel pravzaprav v Ljubljano, kjer je kot zadnji simbolično sedel na knežji stol, ker pa je v mestu razsajala kuga, se je zbal in se raje odpravil v Kamniško Bistrico. Na tem mestu se je med lovom usedel, se spočil in pojedel divjačinski golaž.

Pozneje naj bi znamenita miza (tudi Firštova miza imenovana po »firštih« oz. deželnih knezih) končala v koritih Predaslja, o čemer piše prof. Matevž Ravnikar v Novicah (leta 1845). Domnevajo, da so to storili vojni ubežniki, nasledniki rokovnjačev, da bi imeli mir pred številnimi obiski tega zgodovinskega spomenika.

Firštovo mizo so člani Turističnega društva Kamniška Bistrica z repliko iz bistriških kamnov leta 2015 obudili, Vsako leto 29. aprila pa tradicionalno  pripravijo še druženje ob firštovem divjačinskem golažu. Gre za eno od jedi Okusov Kamnika, ki jo je mogoče poskusiti v nekaterih gostilnah v kamniški občini.

The table is located in a small forest behind to the informational board by the suggested parking area.

The first mentions of the Knežja miza (Prince´s Table) in Kamniška Bistrica can already be found in the writings of Janez Vajkard Valvasor. He described the Knežja miza in Kamniška Bistrica as follows: "Kamniška Bistrica (Kamenska Bistrica) springs two miles above the town of Kamnik, in the high snow-covered mountains. Near the spring, nature has created a wonderful bridge... At the mentioned bridge, there is a rarity visible on a copperplate engraving on the mountain. Lower down, there is a stone slab on which the provincial princes dine when they are in Bistrica on a hunt."

The exact age of the table at this location can only be speculated upon, but given its picturesque nature, it was probably not just an occasional dining place for the provincial princes, but may have also had a sacred or ceremonial significance.

This very princely table, located near the Veliko Predaselj gorge, stirred the minds of many historians in the 19th and 20th centuries. It was speculated that even Emperor Maximilian might have dined at this table, but there is no written evidence of that. However, old records mention that Archduke Charles dined here in 1564. In an article by Professor Franc Rihter published on October 23, 1818, in the Ljubljana weekly Libacher Wochenblatt, we even learn about the dimensions of the table and the inscription on it: "This princely table is an oval stone, 34 inches long, 25 inches wide, and 16 inches thick (a stone 42 centimeters thick and oval in shape, 90 centimeters long and 60 centimeters wide), and it bears the inscription: Ao 1564, die 29 aprilis Carol Austriae luc prausit (In the year 1564, on April 29, the Austrian Archduke Charles dined here). The Styrian, Carniolan, Carinthian, Gorizia, and Istrian Archduke, who had his residence in Graz, actually came to Ljubljana, where he symbolically sat on the princely throne as the last one. However, since the plague was raging in the city, he got scared and preferred to go to Kamniška Bistrica. He sat down at this spot during the hunt, rested, and ate venison goulash.

Later, the famous table (also known as Firštova miza, named after the "firšti" or provincial princes) supposedly ended up in the Predaselj gorge, as written by Professor Matevž Ravnikar in Novice (1845). It is presumed that war fugitives, the successors of the robbers, did this to have peace from the numerous visits to this historical monument.

The members of the Kamniška Bistrica Tourist Association revived Firštova miza with a replica made of Bistrica stones in 2015. Every year on April 29, they also traditionally organize a gathering with Firšt's venison goulash. It is one of the dishes of the Tastes of Kamnik that can be tasted in some restaurants in the Kamnik municipality.

Vir/Sourse: www.kamnik.info

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