Jackie and Bob: Well I really hate to do this for a hide that has been out for almost 21 years. Simple LPC, that usually isn't found by newbies. Hey I remember our first search for a LPC hide it took a long time. However, not being sure when I will get out to So Cal in the near future to check on it, I guess it is time for this one to be put to sleep. A long run for an afterthought, who would have thought it.