poolump: Well this one had a good run. 5yrs and 90+ visits, only 2/3 succesful, I'd call that a pretty good cache. The area has grown up alot over time, but the cache was still there in decent shape when we picked it up this morning. The terrain rating was low, should have been a 3-4 due to thorns. TNX to all who visited and to those who are watching, if you'd asked, help was just a note away.