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Towering over Taumarunui (Waikato/King Country) Mystery Cache

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evilC: It seems that not that many geocachers have had the time or opportunity (and perhaps energy and desire!) to find this cache but congratulations to those that did. I know there were several return trips made from far off places by some keen hunters.

I enjoyed creating it and really don't want to archive it but with one tower gone and some quite big changes around ground zero it seems the writing is on the wall.

Apologies to team Geckoh who I believe have done all the necessary preparations but didn't have a chance to visit Taumarunui and complete the final "assault"!

This entry was edited by evilC on Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 3:07:52 AM.

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Hidden : 3/17/2005
Difficulty:
4 out of 5
Terrain:
3 out of 5

Size: Size:   regular (regular)

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Downtown Taumarunui has a number of tall (over 15 metres high) man-made "towers". You can see at least a part of each tower that I found from the coordinates shown at the top of this page - well - assuming no fog! The coordinates are not useful in any other way. You'll need to pinpoint the location of these towers, and then work out which three are about 898, 397 and 300 metres from a single point, hopefully the location of the actual cache!


As of 7 April 2010 one of the towers has been dismantled and removed. This was the radio mast, at 38° 53.161, 175° 15.605. You may wish to pretend there is a large tower in this position when attempting to crack this puzzle!

There are more towers than the three I chose to use for the distance measurements, and those that were used are not necessarily the tallest, or easiest to find, or easiest to reach. But they are all within 1 km of the listed coordinates.

This is a more difficult derivative of the "first generation" geometry type caches such as The Geometry of Owhango (about 20km south of Taumarunui by road if you want to warm up with that one first). What makes this one more difficult is that you aren't told which distances go with which clue, or exactly which clues to use.

Solving this puzzle is analogous in some ways to the problem a GPS receiver has to solve to find its location. In that case the receiver has to determine a very accurate time in order to work out its distance from each satellite. Each GPS satellite carries its own atomic clock, but each receiver has a relatively inaccurate clock (it won't hold an accurate time over a long period). This means the receiver's local time is not accurate enough to measure the range from each satellite without some other technique, because the calculated range (ignoring corrections for atmospheric effects) is essentially obtained by multiplying the speed of light by the time difference between when the signal was sent (encoded in the signal) and when it was received. The "trick" performed by your receiver to correct the initially inaccurate internal clock is rather clever. In effect, it adjusts the time on that clock until the calculated distances from a number of different satellites generate an intersection at a single point - hopefully your position! So, your GPS receiver is actually determining a very exact time, and also the position simultaneously.

You can read more about this in Trimble's excellent description of how GPS works, and especially the section on getting perfect timing.

In your case you'll need to determine which subset of towers to use, and which distance to associate with each of those towers to get a good intersection. When you've done that you will also have found a possible location for the cache! If you associate the distances mentioned above with the wrong towers, then you will generally not find a feasible solution. On the other hand, you may also find you get more than one solution – in which case you will have to guess which is more likely, or perhaps even search them all - all part of the challenge! I've written some software to simulate the whole process, including allowing for realistic errors in measured positions, and have used that to choose a set of clues and a final hiding place that shouldn't produce too many false solutions. But I'm not guaranteeing a single solution either - it depends on the accuracy of both your and my measurements of the various locations. I've double checked, and taken multiple readings (roughly averaged) in order to help reduce any errors in mine.

Some of the towers are on private property or in places where nearby hazards exist. So please be sensible and careful - get permission to access them as required, or else use triangulation or some other technique to fix the "exact" positions from a more convenient nearby position. You can get quite close to all of them without difficulty. But remember, the more accurately you can determine those locations, the more accurate your final solution is likely to be! When you have determined the location, you need to make your final approach FROM THE WEST. There's a good spot to fill in the log book and so on about 30 metres to the south east of the actual hide. That spot is on private land but I've spoken to the owners and they are comfortable about an occasional (well behaved) geocaching visitor or two. :-)

As mentioned above, I set this up and tested it using a Python program that searched all possible solutions in a brute force manner. The same program can solve this class of puzzle from scratch given the position of all the possible clues, and the distances to the cache. But there are ways this type of puzzle can also be solved using a more basic approach, for example with "paper and pencil" (and perseverance probably!), especially if the number of potential clues isn't too large. The "nearest waypoints" page on your GPS receiver might even do the job if you can "intuit" the general area where the cache might be hidden. Perhaps “proximity rings” can be used also – but my basic yellow etrex doesn’t have that feature so I can’t be sure…

Please also try to remember to note the distances your GPS reports from the cache to the three key towers, and include those in your log entry so we can see how much variation there is! Thanks.

Additional Hints (Decrypt)

[Hint 1. (How many towers?)] V vqragvsvrq fvk gbjref va gur nern gung pbhyq or hfrq nf pyhrf. [Hint 2. (Which combination?)] Lbh pna rznvy zr sbe n Clguba cebtenz gb fbyir guvf naq fvzvyne chmmyrf vs lbh'er fghpx. Lbh'yy arrq gb vafgnyy Clguba (serr). Bgurejvfr, perngr n znc jvgu ybgf bs pvepyrf creuncf... [Hint 3. (Approach to the actual cache.)] Gur ebhgr gb gur pnpur fgnegf arne abegu naq rnfg, ohg xrrc jrfg oruvaq lbh! Fbhgu qbrfa'g znggre... [Hint 4. (Can't find it?)] Haqrearngu gur fznyy gerr jubfr yrnirf ner fubja va gur pnpur yvfgvat onpxtebhaq.

Decryption Key

A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M
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N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z

(letter above equals below, and vice versa)

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