LongDuckDong: Do to the constant nagging and bitching from backwoods and geocachers that cant find a magnetic key holder in a sighn, im taking it down. Yes the gps cordinates put you between the sighn or close to the tree, or in the oriental grass nex to the sighn......this cache moves, and everyone put it where they thought it should go. So thanks to the constant nagging ang new breed of cachrrs, im killing it. Plus having a reveiwer with a twig up his backside, im just killing it. Thanks backwoods.....you never did take my advise and come check on it, but you did look at it ftom your little computer how many states away.......Thanks for GeoTrashing!