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Travel Bug Dog Tag Nick, Nick - Old Bill

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Released:
Wednesday, April 9, 2008
Origin:
United Kingdom
Recently Spotted:
In Pinellas Geo Event Meet, Eat & Greet

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I'm an emergency services groupie!
I would love to visit as many as possible emergency services location all over the world; fire stations, hospitals, ambulance stations, lifeguards, police, courts and sheriffs offices or any other emergency service providers.
I would especially like to visit 'ground zero' in NYC where so many services personnel gave their lives trying to save others.

About This Item

Why the name?

The origin of the phrase "Old Bill".

The slang phrase "Watch Out! Old Bill's about!" was in use in Covent Garden in 1968, and it is now commonly used as a slang phrase referring to the police, certainly made more familiar to the general public by the UK Television series "The Bill" about the police.

It does not appear in the comprehensive Slang Terms and Criminal Jargon in The Book for Police published by Caxton in 1958. Partridge's Dictionary of Slang dates it from the 1950s or 'perhaps earlier'


The Official Encyclopedia of Scotland Yard has 13 possibilities for the origin of the phrase (the origin probably being distinctly different from when it came into common use):

1 Old Bill referred to King William IV who came to the throne in 1830, a year after the Metropolitan Police were founded.

2 The Custom of the Century a play of 1619 by John Fletcher has constables of the watch refer to themselves as "us peacemakers and all our bill of authority".

3 Old constables of the watch were sometimes nicknamed for the bills or billhooks they carried as weapons.

4 Kaiser Wilhelm I of Prussia (Kaiser Bill) visited England about the time that police adopted the current shaped helmet in place of a top hat in 1864 and this association may be relevant.

5 The 'old bill' was in Victorian times a bill presumed to be presented by the police for a bribe to persuade them to turn a blind eye to some nefarious activity.

6 New laws for the police start their life as bills in Parliament.

7 'Old Bill' might refer to the music hall song "Won't you come home, Bill Bailey" also referring to the Old Bailey court.

8 In the 1860s a popular Sergeant Bill Smith at Limehouse was asked for as 'Old Bill'.

9 Many police officers did wear authoritarian looking 'Old Bill' moustaches like Bruce Bairnsfather's famous WW1 cartoon character, the wily old soldier in the trenches.

10 In 1917, the government adopted Bairnsfather's cartoon character in posters and advertisements putting over wartime messages under the heading 'Old Bill says..' and for at least some of these, the figure was dressed in Special Constable's uniform.

11 The original vehicles used by the Flying Squad had registration plates with the letters BYL.

12 The London County Council at one time registered all police, fire and ambulance vehicles with plates including letters BYL.

13 According to the late author Robin Cook, 'old bill' is a racing term for an outsider or unknown quantity; hence a dodgy prospect for an illegal gambler's point of view.

My favourite is the reference to Bruce Bairnsfather's Old bill with his bushy moustache and philosphical outlook on life.

'Nick - Nick' is a much more recent addition to British slang. It refers to the term, "You're nicked!", meaning you are under arrest and was used by popular British Comic, Jim Davidson as a term for policing activity during the early 1980s.

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Discovered It 12/27/2009 Capt Biggins discovered it   Visit Log

Sorry for the late logging..I discovered this at the last event it was at.. just getting around to logging all the hundreds of TB/Geocoins I got to hold and look at...

Write note 12/4/2009 Crow T Robot posted a note for it   Visit Log

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Discovered It 11/12/2009 susanron discovered it   Visit Log

We recorded more than 300 trackables on 11/08 at the Pinellas Meet & Greet. Sorry for the time delay, but Ron could not read all his handwriting the first time. Thanks for sharing.

Discovered It 11/8/2009 The SKPs discovered it   Visit Log

Trying to get caught up on all of the bugs and coins that we discovered at the Pinellas Geo Meet, Eat and Greet Event. Thanks for the opportunity of viewing all of the beautiful items. Sorry for all of the cut and pasting, but we saw lots and lots there.

Discovered It 11/8/2009 Flyingbird discovered it   Visit Log

I discovered this at the Pinellas Meet, Eat and Greet Geo Event at Wall Springs Park.

Discovered It 11/8/2009 ChapterhouseInc discovered it   Visit Log

one of many bugs seen on the table at the event today. 😛

Dropped Off 11/8/2009 adventure.seeker placed it in Pinellas Geo Event Meet, Eat & Greet Florida - 1,095.84 miles  Visit Log
Retrieve It from a Cache 11/2/2009 adventure.seeker retrieved it from My My Where's the Trail ?? Michigan   Visit Log

Found in "My My where's the trail". We decided Nick, Nick - old bill should visit some places near St pete.

Dropped Off 10/7/2009 lost-in-woods? placed it in My My Where's the Trail ?? Michigan - 21.13 miles  Visit Log
Retrieve It from a Cache 8/30/2009 lost-in-woods? retrieved it from back too school Michigan   Visit Log

will move along

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