I haven't physically seen the TB Bucketbug since my late husband, jimboutah, & I placed him in Apex Ruins in Nevada on January 21, 2004. My log in August was just a recordkeeping thing. After my husband passed away, I eventually created my own username and re-logged all the caches we found together under my new username to keep a running tally of my finds, without wiping out the record of his finds. I tried to do the same thing with the TB's & when I re-logged a TB, it showed in the system as if I had grabbed it, although I did not physically have it again. I finally figured out how to get the system to show it back "in the system" where it actually was physically. The person who placed it on 8-21-05 would be the one to ask about it's condition. My apologies for creating so much confusion. Scenery Seeker