Mr.Yuck: Thank you subliminaluser (great name by the way). I actually missed the August 8th DNF. That'll happen when you have over 40 cache placements. This one is indeed missing, and for the 2nd time. Although it was my 2nd hide, and is almost 7 years old, there's nothing spectacular here, and it's going bye-bye. It also always bothered me there was an old, weathered "no tresspassing" sign on the fence visible from N.F. Boulevard, which I didn't notice until about 2 or 3 years after the cache was placed!! CYA, thanks for all the fish.