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marep: Po dolgih letih obstoja je čas za upokojitev. Na prvi stopnji stalno kradejo, pa še kamnita plošča je bila odstranjena, tako da je z ogledovanjem fotografije iskanje izgubilo nek smisel na tem mestu. Ogled predela na prvem mestu je še vedno možen, ker je na Grmu nov GC http://coord.info/GC484ZB

Na drugi in tretji stopnji je bilo zadnje leto gradbišče in nekako ni bilo ravno dostopno. Posledica je tudi povsem preurejen prostor, tako da je škatla na tem mestu izgubila primerno skrivališče.

Na predzadnji stopnji pa je začela stavba propadat, ljudje so se izselili, posledično je hiša ostala brez hišne številke, ki je del koordinat za končno stopnjo.

Vsekakor pa vse te zgodbe ne bojo šle v pozabo, saj sem jih vkomponiral v kulturnozgodovinski "multi", ki bo v kratkem objavljen. Imel bo še več stopenj in vas popeljal v zgodovinske čase Novega mesta.

Pričakujete lahko lep kulturno zgodovinski sprehod skozi Novo mesto.


After lon years of existance, this cache has to be archived. The cache lost its purpose due to so many missing fragments. I am preparing new multi cache, which will lead not only to the castles from this cache, but also to some other interesting places in Novo mesto. Expect nice and informative walk through old days in Novo mesto.

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5 castles

A cache by Mare with family Send Message to Owner Message this owner
Hidden : 05/04/2004
Difficulty:
3.5 out of 5
Terrain:
2 out of 5

Size: Size: regular (regular)

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Geocache Description:

This is multistage cache around Novo mesto

This multistage geocache takes you in Middle Ages of Novo mesto. The goal is to find 5 castles in Novo mesto. There are several caches around. Some of them are virtual, some are real boxes hidden close to the castles. You will need some general historical knowledge. Mid-stages are not meant to be real caches, but you can trade something if you wish. Each mid-stage cache has log-book and note with instructions for next stage. Please don't remove notes from these caches.

Beside GPS I suggest following accessories: small screwdriver, notepad, pen, stopwatch, compass, lamp and calculator.

Have fun!

To find the first cache you'll have to:
Start at coordinates N 45° 47.75 E 015° 10.35 (WGS84). It's parking place close to first castle. Look around for some water deep under the surface. When you find it, measure how deep is it. Take this distance in SW direction.

Important update - January 2012

Two changes were done to successfully complete this cache.
1. Second stage was stolen - again, therefore, the second stage has no box. You'll have to follow the following instructions:


Now take a walk exactly to the West, about 80m. Walk by main street and find a solemn staircase to building with a monumental baroque stone entrance. This is entrance to the castle named Neuhof. It has also some other names: Avla nova, Pred malim mostkom (in front of Mali mostek), Novi dvor, Wollmann's, Kham's castle, Rozina castle.
Valvasor noted it was built in 17th century and this originates it's German name Neuhof. It belongs to family Modrax. Afterward many owners changed at this building. Last owners were Brothers of Charity from Graz. They reconstructed it to hospital, with opening ceremony in 1894. This castle is also known as dwelling place of Julia Primc, ungranted love of famous Slovenian poet France Prešeren. She lived here with her husbant for the last 14 years in her life.
Read the year above the entrance (name it number »C«) and solve the formulas for next cache.
N 45°  (C/100)+ 30.6884  E 15° (C/100)- 7.528



2. Stone plate in front of the Chapel of The Holy Tomb was removed. It has important numbers for coordinates calculation. Since plate is not available in place, the photo is given as a replacement. Click the thumbnail for larger photo.

With instructions printed out and photo of the stone plate, solving this cache remains unchanged. Please note, if you don't have online access from the cache, please print out the instructions and the photo.


Pri resevanju tega multi-cachea bos odpotoval v srednji vek Novega mesta. Cilj je, da obisces vseh 5 gradov, ki jih premore Novo mesto. Vse vmesne stopnje so nekako povezane z gradovi in so v njihovi blizini. Pri resevanju bos rabil nekaj malega splosnega znanja zgodovine. Vsaka vmesna stopnja, kjer je plasticna skatla, vsebuje dnevnik in navodilo kako naprej. Ce zelis, lahko tudi kaj pustis ali vzames na vmesnih stopnjah, edino navodila in dnevnik pusti tam.

Poleg GPS sprejemnika toplo priporocam naslednjo opremo: majhen izvijac, belezka, pisalo, stoparica, kompas, svetilka in kalkulator.

Uzivaj!

Da bos resil prvo uganko, zacni na koordinatah N 45° 47.75 E 015° 10.35 (WGS84). To je parkirisce blizu prvega gradu. Poisci nekaj vode globoko pod povrsjem. Ko jo najdes izmeri, kako globoko je. Pojdi za enako razdaljo v JZ smeri.


Pomembna sprememba - od Januarja 2012 naprej

Da bi uspešno koncali iskanje sta bili vnešeni dve spremembi.
1. Škatlo na drugi stopnji stalno nekdo krade. Zaradi tega je nesmiselno, da se jo stalno obnvlja. Tam torej ni vec škatle, v zameno pa so navodila iz te škatle kar tukaj:



Od tu, kjer sedaj stojiš pojdi zahodno, približno 80m. Ob cesti boš našel stopnice, ki vodijo do enonadstropne stavbe pravokotnega tlorisa z imenitnim kamnitim portalom. To je dvorec Mostek (Neuhof). Druga imena so tudi: Avla nova, Pred malim mostkom, Novi dvor, Wollmannov, Khamov grad, Rozinov grad.
Valvazor je zapisal, da je bil gradic pozidan v 17. stoletju in od tod njegovo ime Neuhof. Najprej je bila v posesti sedaj že poznane družine Modraxov, natancneje Wolfa Adama barona Modraxa. Za njimi se je zvrstilo veliko lastnikov ali najemnikov. Nazadnje je bil od leta 1881 v lasti Ane Kvetkovic, hcerke Ane Kham. Potem ga je odkupil samostan usmiljenih bratov v Gradcu. Ti so stavbo preuzredili v Bolnišnico, ki so jo 1894 svecano odprli. Še danes se pa spominjamo bivanja Primicove Julije, Prešernove nesojene ljubezni zadnjih 14 let njenega življenja v tem gradu. 
Postavi se pred kamnit, barocni vhodni portal. V temenu njegove razkošno profilirane preklade je vklesana letnica. To je število »C«. Za koordinate naslednje stopnje reši naslednjo formulo:
N 45°  (C/100)+ 30.6884  E 15° (C/100)- 7.528




2. Nagrobnik pred vhodom kapele Božjega groba je bil odstranjen med zadnjim preurejanjem okolice in ni vec dostopen. Da se ohrani prvotni potek reševanja uganke petih gradov, je namesto nagrobnika njegova slika. Za povecavo klikni na malo slicico.

Vsi ostali napotki, potek reševanja, koordinate in škatle z navodili ostajajo na svojem mestu. Z gornjo sliko in navodili je možno v celoti priti do konca. Prav tako je potrebno obiskati vse tocke, kot do sedaj. Prosim, da si sliko in navodila natisnete, ce nimate naprave s spletnim dostopom za na teren.


Kid Friendly Kid Friendly Wading Wading Less than 500 ft. from car to cache Less than 500 ft. from car to cache
More than Half a Mile from Trailhead More than Half a Mile from Trailhead Available in Winter Accessible in Winter
Scenic View Scenic View Compass Compass Suggested / Required pencil Bring a pen or pencil historic site Historic Site
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Additional Hints (Decrypt)

[ENG:] Svaq n jryy. Hfr fgbar naq fgbcjngpu. Arjgba bapr fnvq: jura fgbar snyyf, vg tbrf bar unys bs t ol g fdhner.

[SLO:] Cbvfpv ibqawnx. Hcbenov xnzra va fgbcnevpb. Arjgba wr arxbp qrwny: xb xnzra cnqr, ter mn cby t xeng g an xinqeng tybobxb.

Decryption Key

A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M
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N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z

(letter above equals below, and vice versa)



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